God vs. Allah (it�s in the name)

Community:

I make no claim to be a speech therapist, but I've had a few voice lessons and have done some singing so I know a thing or two about vowel sounds and how they are formed in the mouth.

First- does a newborn baby really say ahhhh (i.e., the long "A")? From my observation babies make a higher pitched sound resembling more the "A" heard in the English word "hat."

Second, your claim that this is the easiest sound to make (btw I'm assuming you are referring to the long A because I've only ever heard the word pronounced as Ahhh-lahh) is COMPLETELY subjective and I think even an objective opinion would run counter with your assertion. To make the long A sound (Ahhhh- like getting your tongue depressed so your doctor can look down your throat) requires that you lower your jaw and lift the back of your throat almost like you are about to yawn. Try switching between chanting Ahhhh and Uhhhhhh several times and you will see that you have to open up much more for the former. The latter sound, I would argue is easier because you can say it without having to open your mouth any more than you would to otherwise breath.

Third: "Allaah as we call Him is above everything and everyone, so upward, up."In this context, "above" isn't used in a physical sense but in the metaphorical one, therefore physical movement of the tongue would be irrelevant. Wouldn't it be more accurate to say that God is everywhere?

Also, why would a word to describe god need to be two syllables? Wouldn't it be more "natural" for it just to be a single one instead? You seem to fret about the possible origins of the word "God". Well, I've heard the claim that "Allah" was actually the head deity in the pantheon of ancient Arab pagan gods, so I guess I have to wonder about its true origins as well. By the way, I thought I read once that Allah had 99 names anyway.

To your point regarding the hhh sound and it's representation of a last breath, thus testifying that Allah is the first and the last: Well, what if the Arabic word for god ended in a sound that could signify life itself, or ongoing life? In that case I'm convinced you would simply assert that this simply HAS to be the last syllable because then it shows that Allah is eternal and will exist forever.

Yes, your posts may have 'logic' in them, but it's backward logic. Let mequote you again (sort of):

 "If you did not get the [ill]ogics behind the name Allah, this will not make any sense to you probebly, it might even make you feel attacked, but that was not my intention at all, so i sincerely advice you, urge you to read it again and use your reason. "

You can argue about which word is more beautiful, and everyone should respect your opinion as everyone has a right to their own, but you lose credibility when you try to use 'science' to show that your opinion could be the only logically valid one. Your statement in the above quoted paragraph is also rather condescending to those who might disagree with you.

I'm having a time trying to make sense of your explanations. Simply put: The vowel sound in the word 'hat' is not the same as the vowel sound in the word Allah- period! Just because they are both represented by the letter A is immaterial because we could simply invent another letter for the different pitches of "A" and this would be totally OK because there are no hard and fast rules regarding how ones makes up an alphabet.

You second post is not very convincing because to be swayed by your argument, you would have to believe that Adam and Eve were in fact the first humans ever. (Please show me the cold hard science that backs up that claim!!) In fact there are more than a few Jews, Christians, and I also suspect Muslims (thinking of the new Islam and Darwin thread in this section) that don't believe the the story of the Garden of Eden should be taken literally. You post also implies that Adam and Eve would have used the term Allah as well. To believe that you would already have to believe that Allah could only be the true name for the higher power- something that has no objective truth to back it up!!

Who are you to say my commode is a soul?? Nice comment with the moon walk. Now that I see you are taking cheap shots at me with your puerile insults I can see who is really getting under whose skin more.

I expected nothing less than more obscurations from you. But when the smoke screen from your flippant and condescending rhetoric as faded, you still will not be able to objectively or scientifically respond to the following:

- You keep saying "Allah is the first name he was called by"- even though you have NO proof to back it up whatsoever expect your own assertion that it is so. Please tell me how you KNOW that Allah preceded all other names for the higher power. The story of Adam and Eve, and whether Allah used to be the "Zeus" of the Arab gods is irrelevant, especially considering that in your own timeline, the second event would have come after the name Allah existed.

- If you don't take the story of Adam literally then why talk about him like he was an actual person? "Adam was a monotheist, and those who came after him were also..."

- Please prove to me why the true name of god would have to be 2 syllables as opposed to just one.

- Prove to me why the name of god would have to end in the same sound that one makes at the moment of death. Death is for mortals, and god is immortal! Why would the name of god necessarily have to end in something representing death when god doesn't die at all. It's god's name after all, not the name of humankind!!!!

As far as this: "so you find it more reasonable that some people just invented a faith and said "hey guys lets invent these gods and the head deity we call Allah" -- Well why not??? The where did the name Zeus come from unless the Greeks invented it somehow or it was passed on to them? How about Thor with the Norse gods? Or Brahman for the Hindus? These names may have already been around before the inception of those religions but obviously that doesn't prove that they were the true name of the one and true god!

Have you ever even thought about these things before you post your "scientific finding" or do you make up your mind early on and just run with it without ever challenging it to yourself?

One last thing. In my life experience, I noticed that people who respond with insults and low blows to those who dare challenge their sacred assertions to be the ones with commodes for souls.

Good day Community.