Dealing With Doubt

Bisimillah irrahman irrahim

Assalamu alaykum

First example i gave you was to tell you why it is a metaphore, not to say you are wrong. Your problem starts when you quote an ayah and take the meaning of your desire from it without any proof.

Once again, this time using Yusuf Ali:

47:15 (Here is) a Parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised: in it are rivers of water incorruptible; rivers of milk of which the taste never changes; rivers of wine, a joy to those who drink; and rivers of honey pure and clear. In it there are for them all kinds of fruits; and Grace from their Lord. (Can those in such Bliss) be compared to such as shall dwell for ever in the Fire, and be given, to drink, boiling water, so that it cuts up their bowels (to pieces)?

In other words, "can the Parable of paradise be compared to the parable of hell?".

Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala does not say 'parable of hell', He gives the parable of jannah and tells us that people of jannah will enjoy that bliss and then asks us to compare people of both places '(Can those in such Bliss) be compared to such as shall dwell for ever in the Fire, and be given, to drink, boiling water, so that it cuts up their bowels (to pieces)?

fatima wrote: Bismillah irrahman irrahim Assalamu alaykum

wa alakum salam wa rahemtu Allah wa barekto

The Qur'an says people who cannot see the Truth because they refuse to see it are blind. Is the Qur'an literal? Are people really blind? No. It's metaphorical. It's like being blind. Brother first rule of understanding Holy Quran is 'knowing Holy Quran through Holy Quran' which is explaining one verse through another verse from another part. Your example could easily be explained through another ayah where Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala says that it is not the eyes that grow blind but it is the heart that is blind. This clearly makes it metaphorical.

First of all, you argue what being blind is metaphorical. Which i am already doing!!!

I used the example of being blind as a metaphor. To prove metaphors exist.

So why are you saying "you're wrong. it's a metaphor". ?

As brother has already asked you to please bring the proof from Holy Quran or sunnah that description of hell is metaphorical, not the jannah but hellfire.

In other words, "can the Parable of paradise be compared to the parable of hell?".

Second, Heaven is allegorical (which from almost translations is undoubtable), Heaven is a place with God. Therefore, Hell which is the opposite, is a place without God.

However, regardless of khalifa himself, his translation is excellent. He does make the occasional slip up, and even one time inserted his own name into a verse, but his translation as a whole is one of the best i've seen. You got to be kidding me, a person who inserts his own name in Holy Quran, i would not trust that man as far as i can throw him. Brother be very carefull of where you take your deen from. Wassalam

I am not taking my deen from anywhere. I have examined khaflia's translation and used it alot, simply because it one of the best out there. I know where he's gone wrong in his translations, for example translating the arabic incorrectly so it looks the computer is predicted, which it isn't.

I would rather use an accurate translation containing one or two blasmphemies, then a translation like Pickthall's which is a very inaccurate outdated translation.