Fearful Pakistani women

Whisper wrote: There is a huge post 9 / 11 Islam and Muslim bashing industry - backed by more funds than you and I could ever imagine.

No matter how much money in the world, can hide the truth. The situation keeps on degenerating in the West. Instead of trying to sell the "dating" practice, they must now try to sell the "hooking up" practice.

No marketing budget in the world is sufficiently large to convince Muslims of going along with that.

I am really curious as to what's next? What can be worse than casual sex with strangers? That's very interesting because that's where the West is heading next ...

mdiscussion wrote: Men are the protectors of Women, and or they should be. I am a Muslim female, living in the United States.  It is basically illegal to be a Muslim in America at this time.

The number of Muslims in America is currently too small, unlike in Europe, to fend off the surveillance state successfully.

The global conflict is anywhere from over, and I see them rounding up Muslims sooner or later.

I can only see one way to beef up the numbers quickly and sufficiently.

It is the Hispanics who are hanging in the balance. There would be nothing more threatening to the American surveillance state than seeing Rodriguez, Felipe, and Antonio, all members of another "inferior" class, which the surveillance state wished to finally make accept their racial and cultural "inferiority", chanting "Allah Akbar!". What else could be a bigger "f*ck you" to the hated racist surveillance state? The blacks are also finally getting it.

It will not be easy to make a dent in that Hispanic Catholic constellation, but it is definitely not impossible.

Large groups of Latinos are currently converting to Protestant denominations, and to some extent, Islam is not that different from what they believe now.

They would mostly have to drop the idea that the One God would have white, European family members (and drop the other "mysteries"). From there, the distance to Islam becomes very small.

How hard can it be to convince them to drop all of that? They probably don't believe any of it anyway.

Gaining support amongst the Hispanics is matter of survival.


Edited by crasss

Abeer-Khan wrote: 1> A Pakistani woman is not being allowed to walk shoulder to shoulder with men. Then what�s the use of living in a free country, where freedom is practically worthless, especially for females? 2> Please come out of your shell of innocence. Take off your veils, and let the men of our society know, that enough is enough 3> Pakistani husbands look at their wives, as a sex machine for their own pleasure, but not to love or be concerned for. He thinks of her as a birth machine that�s supposed to give birth to his seven, ten or even more children, each year without a gap. He has no concern for her health. 4> Going on a date, which actually is good for a women�s freedom, which is not available in Pakistan.

Lets break this down to what struck me most outta your entire post ;)

1> Awww, freedom? Been hearing that a lot. You reside in the west I'm guessing. Pretty sure you've seen what too much freedom can lead to, especially amongst the so called cool people who 'want to move along with the times'. Nah? ;)

2>  Wooh, scary. "Come out of your shell of innocence." "Come out of your veils"? Why'd ya want women who have decided to wear Hijaab for the respect of their religion to leave this habbit? Seems to me like 'coming out of veils' is a positive thing to do based on your thinking.

3> Woah woah woah. Hold it ma'am. Its a sad story alright. Wish it doesn't happen to someone. But hey, describing a rare individual issue and claiming it to be a major problem as if being witnessed in every other household is pretty...Err...funny?
I do see your main point though, wherever in the world women are being abused, I'm strictly against the cowardice act, and it needs to be stopped right over.

4> Figured so, expected this kinda thinking. Dating? Like, come on? You say that's a solution to prevent women from being abused? Sure, that's a highly awesome solution, unforunately towards the extreme negative end of the scale though.

No hard feelings, just put my thought out there. But then again you'd feel an eighteen year old's thoughts to be childish, so I'd expect that. I'll grab the satisfaction of expressing what I wanted to though




Edited by xx__Ace__xx - 01 June 2010 at 10:34pm

Hey, I missed this too,lol.

And what happened to the OP? She was REAL upset .

Her post did remind me of the time I used to walk several paces behind my ex-Pak husband. Hehe, in London too. Looked really odd. Man, he was just so fast! lol. And if we were ever out anywhere he would always be first to enter a door and then let it close in my face. Lol, but we all know he was an egomaniac. However I do think he must have been programmed from birth..to act above others. Weird really..and am so glad to travel at my own pace these days.

Life is changing in Pakistan. Those that are better educated DO speak up more than they did. THey get good qualifications and work, so they don;t need to feel intimidated by men.

The poorer women are perhaps the less fortunate. And the OP does have some valid points I guess. BUt hardly worth discussing as she isn't here. I suspect she had some bad experience. That is really sad. But hope that now time has passed she has become the type of woman she obviously was wishing to be.

Salams