Isa Al Massih

harrdnut,

From you and my comments:

"The prophecy of Isaiah WAS FULFILLED.

A vigin had a baby born to her, and His name was GOD WITH US or Emmanuel.

If the baby was not born to the virgin then you can say the prophecy was NOT fulfilled."

BMZ: The baby was not named Emmanuel at all by his mother. This baby's name was Jesus. According to the prophecy, the mother had to call the baby Emmanuel. There could have been another prophet Emmanuel born to a "virgin" in the distant past. 

"Mary conceived and nobody knew about it untill the angel revealed it to Joseph.  If the angel had not revealed it, Joseph would have had to stone Mary to death in public, accordiong to the Mosaic Law."

BMZ: I can't accept that argument. Mary was fully protected by God and God had taken full responsibility for her safety and she could not be touched or harmed by anyone. Mary had the message from Gabriel long before Joseph heard anything. By the way, Qur'aan does not talk of Joseph at all.

Here, Qur'aan describes it best and a short summary for your reading pleasure:

Upon getting the message from Gabriel that she would carry a child, she withdrew from the people and only came out after giving birth to Jesus, carrying him in her arms. She had received a message from God that she should keep quiet and should not talk to people. In other words she was told to keep her mouth shut and let God handle. 

When she came out and people saw her with baby Jesus, they accused her and all she did was to point to the child. The child told them the truth, gave a short speech and cleared his mother's name. Unfortunately Matthew, Mark, Luke and John were not there, so they did not know what really had happened.

The Infancy Bible and stories about the baby Jesus or child Jesus and boy Jesus have already been thrown into the bins of apocrypha and most Christians have no clue about this.

I hope you will not ask me,"How could an infant speak?"

That was no ordinary infant and God made him speak to clear his sweet mother's noble name.

If God could make a donkey speak, it was easier to make a human child speak. Qur'aan's narration makes it so simple and easy to understand.

BMZ

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Prohet Isaiah was not known by everybody in Israel because he lived 700 yrs before the virgin Mary anf Joseph her husband to be. The angel APPEARED to Joseph right in front of him in a vision. 

Who should they pay more attention to:  An unknown propohet or the immediate angel?

bmzsp wrote: harrdnut wrote: Why is Jesus Christ honored in the Quran more than any other prophet of Islam? As a Born-Again Christ-follower, I think that the god of Islam should honor prophet Mohammed more than Isa Al Massih.   The Lord Almighty honoured all the prophets in Qur'aan. However, if you are saying that Jesus is the most honoured in Qur'aan, then you better read this:  Qur'aan tells us that Yahya (John the Baptist), was the first prophet whom the Lord Almighty, for the first time, had called by that name and his parents name him. Another prophet, who was raised to the loftiest stature in the sight of the Lord Almighty, was Enoch (Idrees). Compare that with Jesus. He was supposed to be named Immanuel by his mother but unfortunately, instead of being named Immanuel, he was named Jesus by people but is not remembered by his real name. He is remembered with a Greek name.

Pl read the followinmg and find out the truth about the name Jesus.

bmzsp wrote: harrdnut wrote: Why is Jesus Christ honored in the Quran more than any other prophet of Islam? As a Born-Again Christ-follower, I think that the god of Islam should honor prophet Mohammed more than Isa Al Massih.   The Lord Almighty honoured all the prophets in Qur'aan. However, if you are saying that Jesus is the most honoured in Qur'aan, then you better read this:  Qur'aan tells us that Yahya (John the Baptist), was the first prophet whom the Lord Almighty, for the first time, had called by that name and his parents name him. Another prophet, who was raised to the loftiest stature in the sight of the Lord Almighty, was Enoch (Idrees). Compare that with Jesus. He was supposed to be named Immanuel by his mother but unfortunately, instead of being named Immanuel, he was named Jesus by people but is not remembered by his real name. He is remembered with a Greek name.

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Let me show you how Isa Al Massih is the most highly honored human being in the Quran, let alone any prophets.

[2.87] And most certainly We gave Musa the Book and We sent apostles after him one after another; and We gave Isa, the son of Marium, clear arguments and strengthened him with the holy spirit,

[3.45] When the angels said: O Marium, surely Allah gives you good news with a Word from Him (of one) whose name is the '. Messiah, Isa son of Marium, worthy of regard in this world and the hereafter and of those who are made near (to Allah).

Now pl tell me :  Is there anybody, including Prophet Mohammed who is honored , even equal to, like Isa Son of Mary? 

I say, not one prophet nor any other human being is honored like Isa is honored by Allah in the Quran.

Add to the above thae fact that Isa's Mother Mariam is always mentioned everytime Isa is mentioned. 

What is so important about Mariam?

Here it is from the words of Allah:

1. [3.41] He said: My Lord! appoint a sign for me. Said He: Your sign is that you should not speak to men for three days except by signs; and remember your Lord much and glorify Him in the evening and the morning. f42. And when the angels said: O Marium! surely Allah has chosen you and purified you and chosen you above the women of of the world.

Mariam was chosen by Allah to be ABOVE all other women of the world.

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The above makes Isa doubly honored because Isa was born to the most highly honored of all women in the world.

When did Allah honor any other human being, including all the prophets of the word, more that or even just equal to the HONOR bestowed on Jesus Christ?

The answer is:  Never and nowhere!