SHIA SUNNI, MALEKI, SHAFI, HANAFI, WAHABI

 Sonya has stated:

  I dont know whether it was you or someone else you said Wahabbis give priority to ahadith over anything else. i would say Wrong! i hve studied in an Arab country and my teachers held the so called 'wahabi' ideology. none of them ever said that ahadith should be considered before anything else.. We have been taught that ahadith are the second source [after Qura'n] of Shair'ah and this is not wrong. There's a verse confirming this...

 I had posted that Hadith is the third source of guidance. Nobody replied properly except that some friends tried to meddle (tied) the Hadith with the Sunnah. I request that if Hadith is kept and understood as something separate from the practice of the prophet s.a.w.s. (IF) then please let me know which thing has the priority. The Hadith or the Sunnah??? Just guide me about it please. Thanks.

 abuzaid That is your question. You do not know that there is a continous practice also going on about all rituals, prayers etc from the very first day without any break and millions of people have been doing it all the time in all countries. Will you ignore that??

 The Quran had been put into practice in the life time of the prophet s.a.w.s. and very one learnt that from the prophet s.a.w.s. They copied and followed that practice. There were no books of Hadith then. Even verbal Hadith was not needed because every one knew what to do and how to do it.

 If there were any Hadith  (The said word) they were advisory sentences spoken by the prophet s.a.w.s. and they were far and few  with few people only such that they had to be gathered by much effort 80 -100 years after the passing away of the prophet. They were collected, compiled and written down.

 Do you think that nobody knew how to pray before the Hadith were compiled?? People did not know how to pray or how to perform Hajj etc.??? Please think over these lines and then you will come to know that there is something else present other than the Quran and the Hadith. That is the second thing And that is between the Quran and the Hadith. Please reply.

Sis Sonya wrote : ........name starting with letter 'M' which should be used instead of 'Wahhabis'.

What I know...... is that the Wahhabi title is riddled with pejorative intent. Instead  they called themselves MUWAHHIDUN----or those who profess the Doctrine of the Unity of God...(Ahl al tawhid).

It is precisely because they called themselves muwahhidun, that others have accused the Wahhabi of dismissing other Muslims as being guilty of practising shirk.

Don't label yourself barelvi, deobandi, ahl-e-hadith, salafi, wahaabi, or any other. We all are just MUSLIMS.

May Allah help us forever...

Ameen.

 Abuzaid: You have a point when it comes to throery; but practically how do we follow sunnah. Can you give me list of Sunnah according to your definition which is not mentioned in Quran and Hadith?? and which is agreed upon by all muslims in 15th century. If not, than simple conclusion drawn by your principle is to follow only Quran and reject everything other than Quran. If we agree on your principle, even explnantion of Quran will also be subjected to understanding of individuals. Which also would divide this whole ummah into scattered groups.

 My reply:How do I follow Sunnah. I am surprised at you. The Sunnah is being followed by all the Muslims from the very first day that they learnt from the prophet s.a.w.s. There is no break and no need of any book of Hadith for that.

 To think that without Hadith, one will reject everything other than Quran is also false. Why? Do you think that people will forget how to pray?? Orhow to perform Hajj without your Hadith. You are wrong. The practice of the holy prophet s.a.w.s. which you are denying and you have no value for that, is continous and is a good explaination of the Quran and its verses. Itis not hadith or books of Hadith which are explaining the Quran. It is the practice of the Holy prophet which is supporting the Islamic teachings. Hadith came on the scene much later.

I ask you again, were the people not praying properly until the Ahadith were collected?? You have not replied.

Abuzaid:

Another point is that, Hadith is not just "said word" or "advisory sentences" of Prophet PBUH. It gives an impression that you have not read any hadith so far.

  My reply:I know Hadith is not just "said word". It also contains the various deeds of the prophet s.a.w.s. Please do not try to misunderstand me. How do you say that I have not read any book of Hadith. I have read them quite a lot. There are acts and deeds in the books of Hadith. Admitted and many other useful words of wisdom too.

But remember that the deeds (acts) in Hadith are not necessary to teach us what to do. They simply prove that what we are doing is in fact right and it was done by the prophet s.a.w.s. If you think that it is the books of Hadith which taught us how to do Wudhu and how many Rak'at of prayer at various times then you are very much mistaken. Why don't you admit that please???