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Originally posted by senekerk senekerk wrote:

Salaam Kay: I don't know which video you have, which makes (Witr=3 rakahs) like, Zuhr which is 4 rakahs.

It would be like Mughrib prayer with add on to the third rakah a surah and a supplication.

I see your question in the Islam for non Muslim section, that begs the question
have you done the reversion to Islam i.e., Shahadah or not?


Signreader, No I have not reverted to Islam yet. I know the dfifference between fard and sunnah.

Let me see if I can understand":

The first Rakah would be fard. This includes the Niyyah,the Takbir,and the Qiaah Then repeat the Takbir, place hands on knees recite Subhanna rabbiy al azeem, then Sami allaahliman hamidah. Then perform Sujid.

�You repeat this and after the second prostration in Sujid you recite the Tashahhud, then Taslim

This would be 2 fard. without the sunna

The tape is the one� I found on the IslamiCity site, I bought the iPod with the Quran, Salat and other stuff on it from the IslamiCity site.



Since you have not reverted to Islam yet, you should only be studying the meaning of "la ilaha illa Allah wa anna Muhammadur Rasulullah". �You study the five pillars of islam and learn how to pray after you have said your shahadah.
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Salaam Kay: I don't know which video you have, which makes (Witr=3 rakahs) like, Zuhr which is 4 rakahs.

It would be like Mughrib prayer with add on to the third rakah a surah and a supplication.

I see your question in the Islam for non Muslim section, that begs the question
have you done the reversion to Islam i.e., Shahadah or not?


Signreader, No I have not reverted to Islam yet. I know the dfifference between fard and sunnah.

Let me see if I can understand":

 

The first Rakah would be fard. This includes the Niyyah,the Takbir,and the Qiaah Then repeat the Takbir, place hands on knees recite Subhanna rabbiy al azeem, then Sami allaahliman hamidah. Then perform Sujid.

 You repeat this and after the second prostration in Sujid you recite the Tashahhud, then Taslim

This would be 2 fard. without the sunna

The tape is the one  I found on the IslamiCity site, I bought the iPod with the Quran, Salat and other stuff on it from the IslamiCity site.

 

 



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Originally posted by senekerk senekerk wrote:

 

As Salaan Sign Reader, All the video said was it performed like Zuhr prayer, which doesn't help me becuase i still don't know the basic of Fard and Sunnah, but i think i am beginning to understand it a little better.  all these other terms and schools of thought  boggle my mind.  it sometimes seems there is nothing simple in Islam

 

Originally posted by Sign*Reader Sign*Reader wrote:

Originally posted by senekerk senekerk wrote:


What is witr?  My video say i should do 3 rakkats Witr for isha Prayer


Salaam:Kay
The Witr literally means "odd number" sunnah prayer with a special supplication in it's third rakkat and yes it  is of  3 rakkats, as your video says and I hope it also explains how to do it. If not write back please.

Keep it simple

Salaam Kay: I don't know which video you have, which makes (Witr=3 rakahs) like, Zuhr which is 4 rakahs.

It would be like Mughrib prayer with add on to the third rakah a surah and a supplication.

OK Kay let's get the Fard and sunnah prayer defined.

Fard means compulsory and sunnah prayer are supererogatory ones.

I believe I have previously posted links for the methods.
I see your question in the Islam for non Muslim section, that begs the question
have you done the reversion to Islam i.e., Shahadah or not?

You don't need to concern yourself school of thought at this stage, take these steps in stages to keep it simple.
I will concur with knowledge01.



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Senekerk,

If you are not performing the 5 daily compulsory prayers, do not worry about praying salatul witr. �First, learn about and be in a habit of praying the 5 daily prayers, then the sunnah of each fard, then witr.
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As Salaan Sign Reader, All the video said was it performed like Zuhr prayer, which doesn't help me becuase i still don't know the basic of Fard and Sunnah, but i think i am beginning to understand it a little better.  all these other terms and schools of thought  boggle my mind.  it sometimes seems there is nothing simple in Islam

 

Originally posted by Sign*Reader Sign*Reader wrote:

Originally posted by senekerk senekerk wrote:

What is witr?  My video say i should do 3 rakkats Witr for isha Prayer


Salaam:Kay
The Witr literally means "odd number" sunnah prayer with a special supplication in it's third rakkat and yes it  is of  3 rakkats, as your video says and I hope it also explains how to do it. If not write back please.

Keep it simple
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Originally posted by seekshidayath seekshidayath wrote:

Jazakallah for the explanation. Indeed helped me a lot. But can u clear this thought i had known that its not that compulsory to stick one fiqh. Atleast once a life time we need to follow all other fiqhs. Please support your answer with an authentic and trustworthy explanation since this matters me a lot.



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Follow the Qur'an and Sunnah and the rightly guided scholars who follow the same and who do not introduce bidah into the din.

All of the imams of the mathabin are correct because that's what they do. �They simply have different interpretations and ways of following, which are all according to the Qur'an and Sunnah.
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Jazakallah for the explanation. Indeed helped me a lot. But can u clear this thought i had known that its not that compulsory to stick one fiqh. Atleast once a life time we need to follow all other fiqhs. Please support your answer with an authentic and trustworthy explanation since this matters me a lot.
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Originally posted by seekshidayath seekshidayath wrote:

As'salamualaikum Sir,

It would have been better for us, if you provided the direct answer to teh question posed. Do let us know please that how do u perform witr. The last sentence of the post was :

All these ways of offering Witr prayer have been mentioned in the Sunnah, but the best way is not to stick to one particular way; rather one should do it one way one time and another way another time, so that one will have done all the Sunnahs

Assalam Aleikum

One should stick to the way that is found in the school of fiqh that one adheres to. This is the way of Ahl As-sunnah, and no one has even considered thinking otherwise until the rise of "neo salafism" in the last 2 centuries. Mixing rulings from the four accepted methods for determing fiqh is problematic.

My response will be directed to the questioner in due time on my terms. 

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Anyways pls let us know the way u perform.

The way I make such a prayer is found within Maliki fiqh.

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BTW, the little knowledge i know and what i was taught that that there's nothing wrong whichever school of thought u follow. There's no need to feel wrong of the other schools which we don't follow.

You are correct and I agree with your Brother. But it is bold to declare that Imam Abu Hanifah was "incorrect" and Imam Ahmed's way was the correct way.The rulings were derived using different approaches to the sunnah.

All four schools of thought are correct, but one should pick one and follow it. They all use the primary sources for deriving rulings.

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Even the sahabas had differences but they never argued with each other or had any ill feeling towards any diffferences of opinion.

May Allah ta'ala Guide us towards the right path .

The Sahabas (may Allah be pleased with them) had the Prophet (saw) to ask questions to. They did not need a method to deduce rulings from the primary sources.

All four schools of thought are correct, and Allah knows best.

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