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    Posted: 21 February 2007 at 1:05am

Maryah,

You are right education is not for Moslems only. We are told to seek knowledge. Withholding the knowledge would be to dis-respect her. As you said, the decision is hers and the man has told he about Yemen future wife.. some people are happy in co-wife situations. You are treating her with dignity and respect.

 

 

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Originally posted by Sadija Sadija wrote:

Salaam

I don't want to give wrong advice Im not an Alima.

But does that wife knows he intend second one.  The first wife must give permission first and I feel its bad calling her as a 'slave'. Shame poor thing. How that must be to see your husband only two months in a year?

And above that its opression in my eyes. How can men do that goodness Im so sad.

Wa alaikum asalaam:

No, this brother had a previous wife that died of cancer..He is engaged to the american Christian lady and betrothed by his parents for the marriage in Yemen from what I understand. He has not formally married either yet.

Hopefully both ladies will be happy. I do not intend to try to influence her decision whether or not to marry this fellow. That is her call.  I have the brochure from Islamicity from the Discover Islam series on the Muslim woman to giver her, as well as "The Reader" brochure from the same series. She has a small book on how to do the salat and she has been actually trying to do it. I will help her as much as I can with what I know. She is a very nice person. The decision is hers.

I believe even a non-muslim should be educated.

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I hope that she ends this story with this Yemenis man.
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Salaam

I don't want to give wrong advice Im not an Alima.

But does that wife knows he intend second one.  The first wife must give permission first and I feel its bad calling her as a 'slave'. Shame poor thing. How that must be to see your husband only two months in a year?

And above that its opression in my eyes. How can men do that goodness Im so sad.

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Originally posted by Sign*Reader Sign*Reader wrote:



If the man wants to have his cakes and eat it too with more than one wives and make a mockery of the Quranic injunctions(Nisaa 4:3>>>but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal with justly then only one....That will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice), that is his business.

It is would be wise for you to stay clear from the mess that will be created sooner or later with this arrangement.
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Assalaamualaikum,

Brother Sign, I know you intend well with your advice to Maryah. Allah has said in the quran to enjoin good and forbid evil. It is our duty to give advice to our brothers and sisters. After that, it is "their business".

wassalaam.

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Assalaamualaikum

Sister Maryah, I agree, you should not abandon her. With you as a well wisher, insha allah this sister is in safe hands.

Keep doing dawah and yes, you rightly said she must be educated about her rights as a Muslim (and as a wife). Love is blind and marriage an eye opener,    I pray she does not learn this the hard way.

May Allah reward you for your efforts.

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Asalaamu alaikum

 

Quote "On the other topic we talk about sisterhood.. and t hat ties into it? Would you participate in deceiving another woman? A good question...

I think you should share as much information and she wants to hear. In addition to her potential marriage, education is not a bad thing." 

Why is this being made personal towards me? I think this brother is bad news. All the eligible sisters in our area have refused him that he has sought. And I am deceiving no one, I am trying to validate my negative feelings about this girl's predicament.I do plan on educating her, since she chooses to use me as a Dawah resource I wish to do it in a correct manner. I certainly agree with you on this! Do as this nurse does, stand back, put aside the Personal emotional involvement and assess the situation objectively and pinpoint the pros and cons of the situation!  I want her to accept Islam on its own merit, not the grounds of a potentially disastrous relationship. She has no mother and I have known this girl many years and I will not abandon her. She is a friend of my eldest daughter.

Sister Amah, I agree with you, I wish to continue the Dawah for her benefit but she needs to know what a muslim wife would expect so that she can set standards for this man. She has a right to be treated with dignity whether muslim or not. Thank you all for your posts! Please continue to post, I may need to direct her to this thread if the situation grows  more serious. "Love" can be blind, and some young women will overlook many faults in the process of infatuation with a potential mate. Shukran jaziilan for your suggestions and advise, Jazakallah Khayran!

Mariyah

 

 



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"Every good deed is charity whether you come to your brother's assistance or just greet him with a smile.
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IMHO instead of beating about the bush, there is one simple response that this Yemeni American would be breaking the laws of United States by doing what he is planning to do and could be prosecuted for that if Uncle Sam gets the whiff of it. Uncle Sam can be bashed for lot of other things but you know long arms of his laws do grip bit too tightly around the Muslims law breakers and it could cost.

This should be stated to the Latina lady Elena unequivocally her naivet� notwithstanding.

So far Dawah for Islam is concerned it should be a handled on a separate basis altogether.

If the man wants to have his cakes and eat it too with more than one wives and make a mockery of the Quranic injunctions(Nisaa 4:3>>>but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal with justly then only one....That will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice), that is his business.

It is would be wise for you to stay clear from the mess that will be created sooner or later with this arrangement.
Experience keeps a dear school but a fool would learn in no other!




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