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Angel
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As for the topic, i have an interesting dialogue about this, will post later.
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Arab
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"So, you don't believe that Muhammed is the last prophet, but that Jesus will come after him? Just Jesus, or do you think there will be other prophets to come besides him?" Mohammed is the last prophet peace be upon him. Jesus was before Mohammed of course, so its not as if he's a new prophet peace be upon him. So Mohammed is the last prophet but Jesus is coming back. Lol I dont know if you get what Im saying? No, there is no prophet after Mohammed to be sent. Jesus was already sent before so its as if hes a new prophet, hes an old one. So Mohammed is the last prophet in the sence that he is the last one to be given a message by God to convey to the people.
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Mauri
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Mohammed is the last prophet peace be upon him. Jesus was before
Mohammed of course, so its not as if he's a new prophet peace be upon
him. So Mohammed is the last prophet but Jesus is coming back. Lol I
dont know if you get what Im saying? No, there is no prophet after
Mohammed to be sent. Jesus was already sent before so its as if hes a
new prophet, hes an old one. So Mohammed is the last prophet in the
sence that he is the last one to be given a message by God to convey to
the people.
That's very interesting. It agrees with what Jesus said--that he was the alpha and the omega, the beginning and the end and, in another place that the first would be last. Do you think Muhammed is Jesus? --amissing part of Jesus? Or, what? How would explain how Muhammed and Jesus are both the last? |
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Arab
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sorry I ment to say "so its not as if hes a new prophet, hes an old one". Lol Jesus never said he was the alpha and the omega. What you are quoting is the book of rev which is nothing more then a dream John had and wrote down. In the book it speaks of creatures with eyes on the inside and eyes on the outside. Sometimes you have a little too much to eat and that happens.
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Mauri
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Lol Jesus never said he was the alpha and the omega. What you are
quoting is the book of rev which is nothing more then a dream John had
and wrote down. In the book it speaks of creatures with eyes on the
inside and eyes on the outside. Sometimes you have a little too much to
eat and that happens.
Surely, you are not suggesting that Muhammed had had a little too much to eat--are you? YUSUFALI: Remember in thy dream Allah showed them to thee as few: if He had shown them to thee as many, ye would surely have been discouraged, and ye would surely have disputed in (your) decision; but Allah saved (you): for He knoweth well the (secrets) of (all) hearts. PICKTHAL: When Allah showed them unto thee (O Muhammad) in thy dream as few in number, and if He had shown them to thee as many, ye (Muslims) would have faltered and would have quarrelled over the affair. But Allah saved (you). Lo! He knoweth what is in the breasts (of men). SHAKIR: When Allah showed them to you in your dream as few; and if He had shown them to you as many you would certainly have become weak-hearted and you would have disputed about the matter, but Allah saved (you); surely He is the Knower of what is in the breasts. |
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Arab
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The verse you quoted says that it is a dream. The book of rev doesnt. The majority of the christians dont know this, they just follow it blindly. And whats wrong with the verse you quoted? All im saying is that look it was a dream, Mohammed never had a dream and said that it was the word of God and added it to the Quran. The Quran was a verbal revelation, thats what distincts it from other books such as the Holly Bible. The Bible was, according to your own scholars an inspirational revelation. meaning it was the word of man admitting it is his own words just claiming to be inspired by God. In the Gospel of Matthew it says that after the crusifiction, and only the gospel of Matthew mentions this, that people came out of there graves and went into the streets. Period. No more explanation. Where are they? What happened to them? Stories are half told with no explanation, both in the NT and the OT. We have tafseer, scholars who tell us what every single verse in the QUran means, why it was revealed etc. Not only that Christians dont have this, but I bet theyre ashamed to do so because of the many erotic stories, absurdities and so on in the Bible. An Example:
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Mauri
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The verse you quoted says that it is a dream. The book of rev doesnt.
Rev 1:10 I was in the Spirit on
the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet, That's like someone saying, "I am hungry." and another person asks you why you didn't give him food, you say you didn't know he needed any because he didn't say, "I need food". The Quran was a verbal revelation, thats what distincts it from other
books such as the Holly Bible. The Bible was, according to your own
scholars an inspirational revelation. meaning it was the word of man
admitting it is his own words just claiming to be inspired by God. I am stunned to hear that you don't think the Quran is inspired by God! We have tafseer, scholars who tell us what every single verse in the QUran means, why it was revealed etc. Well, I can certainly see, from your post, that there are those who need someone to tell them what they think things mean. Not only that Christians dont have this... You are obviously just parroting what you have heard someone say without checking the facts for yourself. Every religion has scholars who expound on the meaning of their holy books. Surely, you have heard at least heard of the Jews' Talmad. And, the reason there are so many versions of the Christian Bible is because these scholars don't all agree. Similarly, there are disagreements between the versions of the Quran--you even declared one to be of lesser quality which bmzsp says is one of the best! Muslims, to my knowledge, do not have the equivalent of a Strong's Concordance, which gives the original word which was translated into English and defines the original word for those who know that the meanings of words change over a course of time. but I bet theyre ashamed to do so because of the many erotic stories, absurdities and so on in the Bible That sounds like a kid who searches under "human reproduction" in an encyclopedia because, to him, the pictures are erotic, pornographic. They are anything but that to the serious student. An Example: Okay, I have to ask. How would you describe God? Do you really think He is human? It doesn't sound as though you have read much of either the Quran or the Bible. Imo, you sound more like a Jew....possibly a Messianic Jew than a Muslim. |
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