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I think you're judging it according to the western definition of slavery, beatng them etc. By the Muslim definition and the way they are treated, if you were a slave of a king you would be living like a king! you eat what he eats you dress the way he dresses you get payed before your sweat dries up and you cant be beaten. What more do you want? Basically its what we call today a servant. I believe its good since In Islam we have to: Narrated Abu Musa Al-Ash'ari: "The Prophet said, "Give food to the hungry, pay a visit to the sick and release (set free) the one in captivity (by paying his ransom)." (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Food, Meals, Volume 7, Book 65, Number 286)" Narrated Asma: "No doubt the Prophet ordered people to manumit slaves during the solar eclipse. (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Eclipses, Volume 2, Book 18, Number 163)" "'Abdullah b. 'Umar reported that 'Umar b. Khattab asked the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) as he was at ji'rana (a town near Mecca) on his way back from Ta'if: Messenger of Allah, I had taken a vow during the days of Ignorance that I would observe I'tikaf for one day in the Sacred Mosque. So what is your opinion? He said: Go and observe I'tikaf for a day. And Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) gave him a slave girl out of the one-fifth (of the spoils of war meant for the Holy Prophet). And when Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) set the war prisoners free. 'Umar b. Khattab heard their voice as they were saying: Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) has set us free. He (Hadrat 'Umar) said: What is this? They said: Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) has set free the prisoners of war (which had fallen to the lot of people). Thereupon he (Hadrat 'Umar) said: Abdullah, go to that slave-girl and set her free. (Translation of Sahih Muslim, The Book of Oaths (Kitab Al-Aiman), Book 015, Number 4074)"
So I think Islam did put an ending to slavery. And btw its forbidden to call them slaves. In Islam, we are all the slaves of Allah and only Allah. In Islam it also says that if you beat your slave you would go to hell. Abu Mas'ud al-Ansari reported: "When I was beating my servant, I heard a voice behind me (saying): Abu Mas'ud, bear in mind Allah has more dominance over you than you have upon him. I turned and (found him) to be Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him). I said: Allah's Messenger, I set him free for the sake of Allah. Thereupon he said: Had you not done that, (the gates of) Hell would have opened for you, or the fire would have burnt you. (Translation of Sahih Muslim, The Book of Oaths (Kitab Al-Aiman), Book 015, Number 4088)" "Zadhan reported that Ibn Umar called his slave and he found the marks (of beating) upon his back. He said to him: I have caused you pain. He said: No. But he (Ibn Umar) said: You are free. He then took hold of something from the earth and said: There is no reward for me even to the weight equal to it. I heard Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: He who beats a slave without cognizable offence of his or slaps him, then expiation for it is that he should set him free. (Translation of Sahih Muslim, The Book of Oaths (Kitab Al-Aiman), Book 015, Number 4079).
The Prophet peace be upon him also said: "Your slaves are your brothers and Allah has put them under your command. So whoever has a brother under his command should feed him of what he eats and dress him of what he wears. Do not ask them (slaves) to do things beyond their capacity (power) and if you do so, then help them.' (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Belief, Volume 1, Book 2, Number 29)"
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You do not need a degree in philosophy or a course in morality to answer my questions. You have a brain, use it. You brought up Sura IV-92 which mentions the use of slaves. I know of 11 other passages in the Koran discussing the use of slaves: 4-3, 4-24, 4-25, 23-6, 24-31, 24-58, 20-28, 33-50, 33-52, 33-55, 70-30, and there may be more. Would it not had been better to have required the abolishment of the institution of slavey rather than on how to use slaves? 1) Which has a higher moral standing - the abolishment of slavery or instructions on how to use slaves? The only Muslim group that I known that has members that approve of the use of slavery are the Wahhabis, but I am assuming they do not represent main stream Islam. What do you think? And I mean - what do you think, not someone hundreds of years ago. Sid |
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