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    Posted: 04 January 2007 at 8:45pm

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Sign Reader, I'm afraid there is a lot of truth in what you say, but I
have noticed you are always quick to assume violence, war and the
use of force is an answer to conflicts. Inshallah you are wrong.

It seems to me the use of hecklers at Saddam's hanging was a
planned event in order to set the stage for a future US assault against
Sadr city and usefull to explain the future killings of what they will
tell us are Sadr militia. It only fuels the flames of sectarian violence
within Iraq in the hope of drawing Iran into the fighting and provide
another excuse to nuke Iran.

I mean seriously, since when has Moqtad Al Sadr been Saddam's arch
enemy? This is a set up. I believe this heralds the downfall of Maliki's
useless government (not interested in appeasing the sectarian
fighting, and as far removed from reality as his sponsor GWBush.) In
order for the Bush government to find a glaring excuse for never
withdrawing, and beginning his long planned for assault on Iran,
seeking 'regime change'.

Robert Fisk writes:

�Nor was the Pentagon unaware of the extent of Iraqi use of chemical
weapons. In 1988, for example, Saddam gave his personal
permission for Lt-Col Rick Francona, a US defense intelligence officer
- one of 60 American officers who were secretly providing members
of the Iraqi general staff with detailed information on Iranian
deployments, tactical planning and bomb damage assessments - to
visit the Fao peninsula after Iraqi forces had recaptured the town
from the Iranians. He reported back to Washington that the Iraqis
had used chemical weapons to achieve their victory. The senior
defense intelligence officer at the time, Col Walter Lang, later said
that the use of gas on the battlefield by the Iraqis "was not a matter
of deep strategic concern".

We still don't know - and with Saddam's execution we will probably
never know - the extent of US credits to Iraq, which began in 1982.
The initial tranche, the sum of which was spent on the purchase of
American weapons from Jordan and Kuwait, came to $300m. By
1987, Saddam was being promised $1bn in credit. By 1990, just
before Saddam's invasion of Kuwait, annual trade between Iraq and
the US had grown to $3.5bn a year. Pressed by Saddam's foreign
minister, Tariq Aziz, to continue US credits, James Baker then
Secretary of State, but the same James Baker who has just produced
a report intended to drag George Bush from the catastrophe of
present- day Iraq - pushed for new guarantees worth $1bn from the
US.�

Please bear all of this in mind, when repeating the official mantra
about Saddam�s atrocities. It is not possible to condone any one�s
crimes against humanity, there are no excuses for knowingly
supporting murderers and so-called �war criminals�, and obviously
none of these observers is making a statement of support for
Saddam�s regime. The important point to push home to all who
supported his trial and preordained execution is that Saddam was
once used by America and its ally Britain; that his use of chemical
agents was common knowledge at the time; that he was once a
valued trading partner and strategic contact. The extent of the
West�s hypocrisy and criminal negligence is breathtaking.

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THE KILLING OF SADDAM  WAS A FOREGONE CONCLUSION SINCE HIS CAPTURE but THE  WAY KILLING TOOK PLACE WAS NOT.
WE HAVE DEBATED ON THIS BOARD FEW TIMES THE SHIIT AND SUNNI CONFLICT BUT SOME MEMBERS SHOVED THAT DEBATE UNDER THE RUG WITH SOME LAME EXCUSES OF MUSLIM UNITY.

AFTER WATCHING THIS MUQTADA' SHIIT MURDERING THUGS HANGING THIS MAN PROVE BEYOND ANY SHADOW OF DOUBT THAT THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO CHANCE OF FUTURE SHIIT/SUNNI UNITY AT ALL POSSIBLE CUZ THE  SHIIT HAVE THROWN DOWN THE GAUNTLET TO THE SUNNI WORLD, SEE IF THEY HAVE THE GUTS TO FACE THEM.

You notice that, for example, in that video, nobody shouted the name of Maliki. They were shouting the name of "Muqtada, Muqtada, Muqtada." That should tell you something about the WHO IS INCHARGE  of the government of Nouri al-Maliki, and the SHAPE OF things to come.

But the way in which the execution took place, with the shouting of slogans, not only of Muqtada but also al-Hakim's name was mentioned there, in fact, these are Shias out for revenge on the back of America, and this is what a lot of Sunnis, who are not necessarily pro-Saddam, are being put on notice that you either be very afraid and hide or die helplessly.

The symbolic massage Saddam did leave though for the Sunnis to stiffen up their spines and fight the evil of the Shiism at any cost now hidden behind ski masks otherwise the consequences are obvious.  The Shiit  are the historical collaborators with the invaders and deserve to be fought tooth and nail. That is their fate being the inhabitants of the marked land headed for total ruin according couple of hadiths I have read.

All I can say that he proved 100% to his sign and his name "he who confronts" and he went away uttering  Shahada at the same time. wow man Saddam I salute you for your guts while facing the hooded hyenas.

I wish you had joined the resistance but then since your capture some thing happened which defeated the invaders designs. That might be of some value to the Almighty!








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Kismet Domino: Faith/Courage/Liberty/Abundance/Selfishness/Immorality/Apathy/Bondage or extinction.
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Simple question...Do you think Bush or Blair would allow any seccesionist movement to prosper in the US or UK? Why is it that they can attack Muslims who take up arms against them while Saddam cannot defend his regime?

That is so unfair of your judgement.

The man is dead...pay some respect to him. That would make a better day for all Muslims if Muslims stop squabbling on the dead body of Saddam.

He has all my respect.

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Hanan,

I do not believe at all you are being righteous here. Bush ordered the invasion of Iraq. Today more people have died than under the reign of Saddam. Saddam's reign was legitimate. Any rebellion against his reign should have been quelled. He did it his own way, rightfully. Bush is responsible for more murders, killings, rape and etc...yet he sleeps well while Saddam goes to gallows. That is not how humans are supposed to live on earth. Not by the command of Bush, the devil.

There is no justification for murdering Saddam on the basis of supposed crimes against humanity. His culling by the shiites and the Bush administration is a demonstration of the cruelty of the shiite regime in Iraq and the devilish designs of the Bush regime.

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Originally posted by Hanan Hanan wrote:

Alibeta,

I believe that Saddam Hussein was responsible for all the crimes and atrocities he was accused of, and for those that others had committed in his name and by his order.

No, he didn�t gas the Kurds in 1988, but he ordered the gassing. He didn�t kill countless Shiites, but he ordered the killings. He didn�t massacre the people of Dujail, but he personally ordered their tortures and subsequent deaths.

Saddam Hussein was guilty of all those crimes against humanity.

None of these horrendous crimes and atrocities justified the American-orchestrated Kangaroo Court proceedings and the undignified manner in which these so-called Iraqi officials (I assume they were employed by the Iraqi government) behaved.

May Allah, the Most Merciful, the Most Forgiving, show mercy and forgiveness upon Saddam Hussein. May Allah, al-Muntaquim, bring death to all who have committed, and continue to commit horrendous crimes against the innocent people of Iraq.

Thank you Hanan, you echoed my sentiments. I don't think Saddam was given a fair proceeding.

Alibeta, I was only using what Allah has given us all-the ability to judge a matter. We should be able to take a stance after observing something to the best of our abilities. Based on the information provided to me, I think that Saddam and his sons were responsible for the brutal treatment of his own people, many of them innocent. 

If Texas and Arizona wanted to secceed from the Union, their citizens-men, women, children, elderlies, handicapped-don't deserve to be gassed and die a horrific death. That would be un-Islamic.

When I said "Allah knows best" I wasn't contradicting myself. What I meant was Allah, with His infinite wisdom and knowledge, would be the best to deal with Saddam.

Wasalaam.

 

 

 

 

 

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Hold fast to the rope of Allah, and be not divided



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