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proof about SUFI SWINES from begining jewish and nassara they used this spys to infiltrate ISLAM and create sects thus from spain the master spy the seal of JAHILIYAA ibn arabi and from india his deputy KAFFIR QADIAN now they want to become political and create theirs own SHARIAH COUNCIL here is the PROOF
Wednesday, October 11, 2006 As Ruth Kelly spoke at the Local Government Association today, you could see Haras Rafiq of the Neoconservative "Sufi Muslim Council" sitting by her side and almost rubbing his hands in glee when he heard that all he had to do was tow the government line in order to get funding from the Government. In communist speak, Kelly spoke of "deradicalisation programmes" and basically talked about a state-sponsored version of Islam - step in Haras Rafiq - fresh from his trip to the Kibbutz, while Israeli bombs pounded Lebanon and Gaza. Again, Haras Rafiq was dragged in front of the television cameras to support the government line - We ask once again - who are the "Sufi Muslim Council"? Who funds them? What are their links to the Labour Party? Why do they have such a close relationship with the neocons in Washington? What are the links between the SMC and the Zionists? posted by Sufi at 2:27 PM | 0 comments Tuesday, August 29, 2006 (1) What is the source of funding for the Sufi Muslim Council? There are rumours that leaders (not sure if this should be plural, as there only seems to be one!) have been offering around wads of cash for this project. The Muslim community deserves to know. (2) What are the links between the Sufi Muslim Council, Haras Rafiq and the British government? What meetings has Rafiq had with government, politicians or civil servants, other than those that have been publicised. Suddenly, Rafiq is invited by the government to join the post 7/7 working groups and all meetings thereafter - he was unknown before then. (3) What is the link between the Sufi Muslim Council and the Labour Party? Azhar Ali - one of the "co-founders" of the Sufi Muslim Council has no Sufi credentials but has been a Labour Party councillor. Does the SMC adopt a "New Sufism" approach, akin to "New Labour"? (4) What are the links between the Sufi Muslim Council and the much criticised Bush and Cheney supporting "Islamic Supreme Council of America"? (5) What are the links between the Sufi Muslim Council and neoconservatives in the USA? Much of the analysis on the Sufi Muslim Council website is taken from neoconservative writers and think tanks. The criticism of Muslim Brotherhood and HT is taken direct from the writings of the neocons. (6) What are the links between the Sufi Muslim Council and Zionists? The Sufi Muslim Council has boasted of its links to Jewish organisations in the UK that are ardent supporters of the Israeli state. (7) What is the view of the Sufi Muslim Council on Qadianis, who claim to be Muslims? Private sources have told us that the Sufi Muslim Council is willing to accept that Qadianis are Muslims, even though they reject the finality of the final Messenger of Allah, Muhammad (saw). posted by Sufi at 3:32 PM | 0 comments Wednesday, August 23, 2006
Sufi Muslim Council Exposed Wednesday, October 11, 2006 As Ruth Kelly spoke at the Local Government Association today, you could see Haras Rafiq of the Neoconservative "Sufi Muslim Council" sitting by her side and almost rubbing his hands in glee when he heard that all he had to do was tow the government line in order to get funding from the Government. In communist speak, Kelly spoke of "deradicalisation programmes" and basically talked about a state-sponsored version of Islam - step in Haras Rafiq - fresh from his trip to the Kibbutz, while Israeli bombs pounded Lebanon and Gaza. Again, Haras Rafiq was dragged in front of the television cameras to support the government line - We ask once again - who are the "Sufi Muslim Council"? Who funds them? What are their links to the Labour Party? Why do they have such a close relationship with the neocons in Washington? What are the links between the SMC and the Zionists? posted by Sufi at 2:27 PM | 0 comments Tuesday, August 29, 2006 (1) What is the source of funding for the Sufi Muslim Council? There are rumours that leaders (not sure if this should be plural, as there only seems to be one!) have been offering around wads of cash for this project. The Muslim community deserves to know. (2) What are the links between the Sufi Muslim Council, Haras Rafiq and the British government? What meetings has Rafiq had with government, politicians or civil servants, other than those that have been publicised. Suddenly, Rafiq is invited by the government to join the post 7/7 working groups and all meetings thereafter - he was unknown before then. (3) What is the link between the Sufi Muslim Council and the Labour Party? Azhar Ali - one of the "co-founders" of the Sufi Muslim Council has no Sufi credentials but has been a Labour Party councillor. Does the SMC adopt a "New Sufism" approach, akin to "New Labour"? (4) What are the links between the Sufi Muslim Council and the much criticised Bush and Cheney supporting "Islamic Supreme Council of America"? (5) What are the links between the Sufi Muslim Council and neoconservatives in the USA? Much of the analysis on the Sufi Muslim Council website is taken from neoconservative writers and think tanks. The criticism of Muslim Brotherhood and HT is taken direct from the writings of the neocons. (6) What are the links between the Sufi Muslim Council and Zionists? The Sufi Muslim Council has boasted of its links to Jewish organisations in the UK that are ardent supporters of the Israeli state. (7) What is the view of the Sufi Muslim Council on Qadianis, who claim to be Muslims? Private sources have told us that the Sufi Muslim Council is willing to accept that Qadianis are Muslims, even though they reject the finality of the final Messenger of Allah, Muhammad (saw). posted by Sufi at 3:32 PM | 0 comments Wednesday, August 23, 2006
these are take from hindu NEO NAZI sites see how the hate islam and love SUFI SWINES
other. SufiSaints and Bhakti Cults, both were very popular with following amongstsubalterns. Sufis were more tilted towards spiritual side of Islam. They had to opposethe orthodox Ulema of Islam (those learned in Islamic Theology) who wereclose to the elite and power center of the society. These Sufis were closeto Christians and Jew mystics and also to the spirituality of some Hindusects. Moinuddin Ibn Arabi founded the doctrine of Wahadat-Al-Wajud (i.e.Unity of being,), this doctrine promoted spiritual universalism anddemolished the barriers of caste and creed. According to their preaching,real being is one and we are all His manifestations. Baba Farid of Punjabwrote his poetry in Punjabi and his verses were quoted in the AdiGranth,(Granth Saheb) by Guru Nanak. Mir Miyan another Sufi saint was requested to lay the foundation stoneof Harmandir in golden temple. Sayyid Waris Shah wrote Hir Ranzha,greatest classic of medieval Punjabi literature.
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only proof i can see is what i see on tv about alchoholic drink that gives the drunks the wings ~ Our feet are earthbound, but our hearts and our minds have wings ~ in dream any one can fly |
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Bi ismillahi rahmani raheem
do you know how to think? do you know how to Analise? do you know what Logic is? are you just emotional? if you answered yes to the last one then you are not doing any of the three before it i.e your posts are just rants? you ask for proof then when you are pointed towards it you ignorantly and emotionally say no i dont want to read it. Point A: the word sufi as it is used today represents an unimaginable number of different groups all having different beliefs. Question: if this is the absolute truth [which it is] how on earth can showing what one two three or even 100 different sufi groups are doing wrong represent every single sufi on earth that not only is alive today but lived in the PAST AND HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SUFIS YOU KNOW. point B: you are blindly talking about almost every single major scholar in Islam, there isnt a single scholar on the face of this earth who isnt indebted to the fiqh works of a past sufi scholars. based on the two points above YOU have to conclude that either what you know is wrong or LIMITED to what ever sufi groups you have run into. becouse to say a man is guilty for the sins of another man is to just about declare your self a kafir. only proof i can see is what i see on tv about alchoholic drink that gives the drunks the wings you are filled with hate, how ironic that you label your writing "sweetwords" when you lace them with venom. learn to think, Analise and use logic emotions are nothing but you satisfying your self at the expense of others and for that people are called to account especially in a public domain where your words are tantamount to an open and public slander. Edited by rami |
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Rasul Allah (sallah llahu alaihi wa sallam) said: "Whoever knows himself, knows his Lord" and whoever knows his Lord has been given His gnosis and nearness.
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At one point in my life, I thought that I knew something about Sufis, but have since learned that I know nothing. As a non-Muslim, why all this hostility toward Sufis? Sid |
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Poga, Sufism is also know as tasawwuf. Sure there are some who call themselves sufis but they are not true sufis. PLEASE DO SOME RESEARCH!! READ THIS THREAD AND THE LINKS TO. AND PLEASE STOP USING THE TERM SUFI SWINES!! If you so desire to keep going then please create another thread and NOT dissort this one! |
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Bi ismillahi rahmani raheem
i know you said you been in this for 25 years i give you brother something what will not take twenty five moments but i guarantee it will give you more. if you are referring to sufism can you provide a quote for me, i am not part of any sufi tariqah and have never claimed to be.if you are of class five then ask question of class five and if pass level of five then atleast you will know i know what you know but because i claimed i am class eight i also might know more then you I dont know what you are talking about. so far you havnt demonstrated any knowledge of anything. so brother i say with out any pride may ALLAH save me from such i am the fountainhead of my sequence and to prove it i have posted estimate of kursi and arsh go through the post and see if you find any flaw in the diagram of the cubical na laynn again i dont know what you are talking about or what you mean by sequence. You seem to be using some translator to translate your words into English but they never get the structure of the phrase exactly right. but i am aginst SUFI SWINE this two word i will make joined like sh1t and smell i highly doubt you even know what the word sufi means. it is a general term used to describe various groups around the world so who on earth are talking about. brother it is adab to speak politly and it is easy but what i am doing is hard but many wise came and gone but this dogs they just keep on rolling theirs tongue you ask me to be polite and in the same sentence you swear and curse, dont YOU see anything wrong with that. i suspect your english is at such a low level you probably dont realise what you are saying. Edited by rami |
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Rasul Allah (sallah llahu alaihi wa sallam) said: "Whoever knows himself, knows his Lord" and whoever knows his Lord has been given His gnosis and nearness.
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Why aint know one banned this guy yet for calling people a kuffar?
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