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    Posted: 23 March 2008 at 1:22am
Originally posted by MOSABJA MOSABJA wrote:

My mothers family migrated from india and we alone know how much sacrifices we gave to create pakistan on 27 Ramadan friday.

the cousin of my grand father came to pakistan via train and on the wa some hindus got in the train from the front boogie.he had his wife and daughter with him and he knew hindus would rape them.The only way was to jump out of train but he knew that he was well away from pakistan border and his wife and daughter would not make it .They would be caught .So he tok his wife and daughter and jumed out .He survived but both of them died.Then he crawled kms to come to Pakistan as in wheat fields if he walked hindus would note him.

My other grand father even told me that when he Jumped into jhelum river it was full of dead bodies so much so that he could walk in river.

 

ANY WAY WE RESPECT and Love our Indian Muslim brothers.India is our land .We will go their again.They could nt come cuz allah had willed and they too are GOOD MUSLIMs and we STAND WITH THEM and INSHALAH we will reunite with them and the ISLAM will again dominate India.As allahs prophet said

Abu hurayra narrates"Prophet said that Allah will raise 2 groups aong your ummah near Qiyamah one would conquer INDIA and other would side with mahid both of them would be protected from hell fire."(al nisai,hakim and reported in others)

In another Hadith Abu hurayra said"Prophet promised us conquest of India"

In Nuaim bin hammad's book "Prophet sa said that the group of yours that will conquer India would rejoice very much at Allah's favour.Indian kings would be brought forth in chains and when this army would return it would find EISA son of MARY in SHAM"

FUTURE OF INDIAN IS ISLAM.

As'Salamu Alaikum brother,

Can you please recheck the hadiths you quoted. And i think you have lots of hatred towards India. May be the experience you shared above is the reason.But now its changed. Do you know brother, there are 90 % of the non-muslims who are ignorant of Islam. It is our duty, irresepective of whichever place we belong, to let them know of Islam. If we move on with this hatred, it is just impossible. And alhmadullilah, these hindus are very kind and helpful to us. Yes, there are few groups who spread hatred but it does n't mean all are such. All these people need just a spark of our light that would light them. And please do edit those hadiths as they are n't correct and it would create a wrong impression of Islam over non-muslims. Moreover Islam does n't permit to lie in the name of Prophet. Its a sin.

We would like  you to welcome here in India, but not when you are with weapons but when associated with a tableeghi Jamaat. I promise, insha-Allah you shall return with lots of sweet experiences.



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Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: �All the descendants of Adam are sinners, and the best of sinners are those who repent."
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Originally posted by ZamanH ZamanH wrote:

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Why did you choose to live in India even after partition?

Because its the land of our forefathers (not just yours).

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If you feel that you are being ill treated in India, then why dont you leave India?

same as above.

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The percentage of Hindus in Pakistan and Bangladesh after partition in 1947 was 17 and 25 respectively. Today their percentage is almost nil in Pakistan and 10.5 in Bangladesh. What happened to the missing Hindus? Do Hindus have human rights?

Although if you look at percentages it might look great, but less Hindus emigrated to India compared to Muslims who migrated to Pakistan. The percentages look great because Pak had a lesser population.

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The problem is in a muslim mindset.  If you are in majority, you will make it a Islamic Republic.  And if you seem to be a minority, you proclaim to the world that you are being ill treated and that jihad has to be declared on that country...

While criticising Muslims, don't forget how badly lower castes Hindus have traditionally been treated by Upper caste Hindus in India, because of which many of whom (the Lower Caste Hindus) converted to Islam.
Also, don't forget Mughals ruled India as their own country even though they were Muslims. Many of the Mughal kings had Hindu wives and mothers
and appointed their Hindu relatives to high position. Mughals made India the richest country in the world under their rule. Muslim rulers like Tipu Sultan and Siraj ud daulah are admired by Hindus and Muslims alike. 

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My mothers family migrated from india and we alone know how much sacrifices we gave to create pakistan on 27 Ramadan friday.

the cousin of my grand father came to pakistan via train and on the wa some hindus got in the train from the front boogie.he had his wife and daughter with him and he knew hindus would rape them.The only way was to jump out of train but he knew that he was well away from pakistan border and his wife and daughter would not make it .They would be caught .So he tok his wife and daughter and jumed out .He survived but both of them died.Then he crawled kms to come to Pakistan as in wheat fields if he walked hindus would note him.

My other grand father even told me that when he Jumped into jhelum river it was full of dead bodies so much so that he could walk in river.

 

ANY WAY WE RESPECT and Love our Indian Muslim brothers.India is our land .We will go their again.They could nt come cuz allah had willed and they too are GOOD MUSLIMs and we STAND WITH THEM and INSHALAH we will reunite with them and the ISLAM will again dominate India.As allahs prophet said

Abu hurayra narrates"Prophet said that Allah will raise 2 groups aong your ummah near Qiyamah one would conquer INDIA and other would side with mahid both of them would be protected from hell fire."(al nisai,hakim and reported in others)

 

In another Hadith Abu hurayra said"Prophet promised us conquest of India"

In Nuaim bin hammad's book "Prophet sa said that the group of yours that will conquer India would rejoice very much at Allah's favour.Indian kings would be brought forth in chains and when this army would return it would find EISA son of MARY in SHAM"

 

 

FUTURE OF INDIAN IS ISLAM.

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I couldn't read all what the other guyz said man...its too longg

I just have to say this man in Pakistan Hindus are nill but did u ever hear about a gujrat riot in Pakistan ?? Did u ever hear about the degradation of a hindu temple in PAk ??

The lowest cast of hindus.... whats it called " achoot " r something, they are treated way better in Pak than India...atleast WE think of them as humans.

Agree with 41 this guy is derranged

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 nu001 wrote:-------Just you have got education and could get rid of the curse of lower cast, don't be selfish and start painting picture like others have done for ages, still their are cursed casts in many parts of india, that's not a political slogan only.

Agreed with you nu001, this guy...bharatiya, need to wakeup!!!...Poor soul, he must be in a dazzzzzzze.

 

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Originally posted by bharatiya bharatiya wrote:

To Zaman Brother,

You were saying that Mughals made India the richest country in the world.  India was the only producer of diamonds for centuries.  In the words of a Chinese traveller, "India is so rich that I haven't seen a single beggar in the whole length I travelled..."

Muslims were lured by those riches.  India was a naval power before the Mughals came.  They were interested in travelling only to Mecca.

Dear Bhartiya, Know the history of India first. Which chinese and hwen he told it? unless you be more clear about the time and identity hard to comment on that.

But for now; Morya, Arya, Gupta, Pal, Ashoka all of the people who ruled india unfortunately were out siders, came from the same region generally from where the Mughals and all Muslim rulers came from. But the hindus will only call the muslims outsiders. It was the Muslims many of whom have taken and many have enriched india. What you can boast of today in india of your heritage are all made by Muslims.

If you think your religion is bul*****and try to nationalism your religion, that's your problem, Muslims have faith in their religion and if religion is for eternel life even for hinduism how can nationalism come over it? Submitting to God does not mean someone is disloyal to his country but that definitely cant come above God in any religion, unless you abandon religion. That you may chose to do, not muslims.

Muslims are in different good position in India, that is not on ur mercy, by their capacity, hard earned, if they had equal opportunity; they would even be better.

Just you have got education and could get rid of the curse of lower cast, don't be selfish and start painting picture like others have done for ages, still their are cursed casts in many parts of india, that's not a political slogan only.

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Originally posted by bharatiya bharatiya wrote:

Just read this,
  • In India 85% of the population is Hindu. If Hindus are intolerant, how come Masjids and Madrasas are thriving? How come Muslims are offering Namaz on the road? How come Muslims are proclaiming five times a day on loudspeakers that there is no God except Allah? --great

  • When Hindus gave away 30% of Bharat to the Muslims for a song, why do they have to beg now for their three sacred places out of thirty thousand destroyed by the Muslims?

  • AMAZING FAKT    ,will you plz give the reference for above

  • When the Constitution of India advocates equal rights to all the citizens, then why do we have different laws for people of different religious faiths? Why can't we have a Uniform Civil Code?

  • will you plz tell me the difference between personal laws and civil laws

  • When Haj pilgrims are given subsidy, why Hindu pilgrims to Amarnath, Sabarimalai and Kailash Mansarover are taxed?

  • Evidence again plz,if you take one ticket the airline will charge you more but if you book the entire plane you would be given discount in the form of susidy,or else suggest the govt to free hajj house to charter any airlines as per their  wish and see the response from air india.

  • Why are the temple revenues diverted to fund Haj subsidy and the welfare activities of Muslims and Christians?

  • i m sure now you are a regular reader of ''panjanya''.these kind of facts are regularly published in this monthly magazine.

  • Why is post-Godhra blown out of proportion, when no one talks of the ethnic cleansing of four lakh Hindus from Kashmir?

  • many speaks against those if you can listen.

  • If Muslims & Christians are minorities in Maharashtra, UP, Bihar, etc. are Hindus not minorities in J&K, Mizoram, Nagaland, Arunachal Pradesh, Meghalaya, etc.? Why are Hindus denied minority rights in these states?

  • what are those minority rights muslims enjoying in these states and what are th ose rights not given to hindus in north eastern states.

  • In what way is J&K different from Maharashtra, Tamil Nadu or Uttar Pradesh to have Article 370?

  • yes these states dont have border disputes with other nations.plz go ahead and read article 371,372 to know more about the spcl status of a state.

  • Is there one Mullah or Maulvi who has declared a 'fatwa' against terrorists?

  • yes here is one,if you ask i ll post more: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1820782.cms

  • Why did Gandhiji object to the decision of the cabinet and insist that the Somnath Temple should be reconstructed out of public funds, not government funds, when in January 1948 he pressurised Nehru and Patel to carry on renovation of the mosques of Delhi at government expenses?

  • even if it is done,it was wrong to renovate mosque by govt fund.Any bldgs of heritage value is being looked after by govt deptt and this is not for mosque but temples,churches and all.

  • When Christian and Muslim schools can teach Bible and Quran, why Hindus cannot teach Gita or Ramayan?

  • oh..who stops them..havent you seen shishu mandirs run by RSS.

Why do you people consider anything pro-hindu as anti-Islamic?

we never consider but in reverse may i ask you why you support any anti muslim propaganda as pro hindu.

We never ask them to prove their loyalty. 

same here,...we never want to prove ourselves.India is as dear to us as to any indian.dont you mark we sleep in its lap even after death.

If they really have, they would respect his fellow 'hindu' or Sikh or Christian. 

yes we respect them and our religion teaches us to behave in good manner with our neighbours.read  it:

"Worship Allah, and join not any partners with Him; and do good- to parents, kinsfolk, orphans, those in need, neighbours who are near, neighbours who are strangers, the Companion by your side, the wayfarer (you meet), and what your right hands possess; For Allah loves not the arrogant, the vainglorious". (4:36).


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Originally posted by bharatiya bharatiya wrote:

Hello all the Indian Muslims here!!!

-----hi bhartiya

Why did you choose to live in India even after partition?

---I love your innocence,it was optional choice for both sides

plz check the books..the division was made on geographical basis

Just to tell the whole world that Hindus are communals and Hinduism is a farce?  If Hinduism is a farce, let it be.  It does not matter to you.

--no ,hindus are not communal,they are as good or bad as others.

If you feel that you are being ill treated in India, then why dont you leave India?

---why you insist on leaving dear?it seems you have some probs,whereas we muslims dont.

The percentage of Hindus in Pakistan and Bangladesh after partition in 1947 was 17 and 25 respectively. Today their percentage is almost nil in Pakistan and 10.5 in Bangladesh. What happened to the missing Hindus? Do Hindus have human rights?

-----this question you should better ask to foreign affairs deptt.but before that dont forget to confirm the figures and the causes by amnesty report.

The problem is in a muslim mindset.  If you are in majority, you will make it a Islamic Republic.  And if you seem to be a minority, you proclaim to the world that you are being ill treated and that jihad has to be declared on that country...

-------you are talking abt muslim mindset,islamic republic and jihad.

I am really keen to know what do you mean by these terms.

 

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