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    Posted: 04 September 2006 at 9:45pm

I'd like to discuss this idea.......

It's quite interesting that many advocates who are against the war want the U.S out and many advocates for the war want the U.S to finish. But more a fair question to ask is as of now what if America left Iraq and Afghanistan? What would happen?

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Bismillah

It would be fare to answer that it is none of American business to contemplate what will happen if America left and let the Iraqis and Afghans deal with their situation and request help from whoever they deem to be most appropriate and necessary.

It would also be good to charge America for the destruction and chaos it has brought to the country and region as a whole... Oh, and they could have Saddam as a take-away memorabilia.



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Israfil,

The Asians have always lived with their own bad governments and would prefer to live still with their bad governments instead of having foreign forces of good governments carrying out destruction and killing in their lands in the name of promoting democracy.

I believe that the US, the UK and Nato have entered the biggest quagmire of History. All of us know the Afghanis well. The Russians lived there for ten years and the West has already been there for five. The Russians had warned the US not to go in Afghanistan.

That is my view, dear brother. In my view, with the "best of intentions", both Iraq and Afghanistan are failures and would remain so.

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It is none of the American business to remain in IRAQ and AFGHANISTAN. Let the population there decide what they want !!

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You know, I agree with Mockba, Bmz and Kash, it is upto to the local people/government. It is obviously that the government wants america and others' help, and there are local people who are glad to have the help to. So in one sense I see from us that shouting or telling the americans to get out is a bit useless, at less from those afar.

Aparently there is a big US embrassy being built the biggest so far, I think I posted an article awhile ago about if not then its at the Pond.

When I see people saying that the US should leave, I always pose the view, What about those that want the help and security of others?

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MOCKBA,

From you: "It would also be good to charge America for the destruction and chaos it has brought to the country and region as a whole... Oh, and they could have Saddam as a take-away memorabilia."

Exactly and likewise the cost of rebuilding Lebanon should be charged to Israel and come from the coffers of Israel. Why should others pay?

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To this day we hear people talk about how we left Afghanistan in a mess and how we created the situation for OBL to grow into what he has so why in the world should we take that chance again? We could cut all ties to the middle east and we would still be blamed for the problems. I started to notice that no one in the middle east wants to accept responsibility for thier own actions. I would guess that the terrorists in Iraq has killed more civilians than the US since they actually target the local Iraq's who are trying to make the best of themselves by getting jobs and such but since nutjob with a bomb thinks they should not be working for the current government that they deserve to die. Of course no one seems to ever talk about that part of the war.

Get it through your heads that I don't support Bush or the Israeli's! Thank your lucky stars for America is here to stay!!!
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Lots of info on this BBC Page:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/5313376.stm

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