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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote herjihad Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2005 at 11:15am

Bismillah,

Women are ill-used in America and the rest of the world, as you say.  That is why we need women leaders to advocate for our needs and the needs of our children and maybe the rest of the family too. (Small businesses for good employment options?)

Let's stand beside the abused in any way we can and Allah, SWT, will bless us! 

Blame the buyer not the seller.  Good point, UmSami.  (Oh, yeah.  The man goes home safely, and the poor woman gets pregnant and in more trouble.)

(UmSami, I guess I don't like my kids as much as you to do that for them!  But since I'm not in that situation, Al-Hamdulilah, I don't like to be arrogant and make assertions for would-be situations.)

Al-Hamdulillah (From a Married Muslimah) La Howla Wa La Quwata Illa BiLLah - There is no Effort or Power except with Allah's Will.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote umsami Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2005 at 4:28am

A great book on Iran and the Iranian revolution is "Persepolis" by Marjane Satrapi. 

Prostitution is a sad fact of life in 99% of all countries.. .Muslim and non-Muslim.  Women who are uneducated... and/or in a country where women are not welcome in the workforce (seen as taking jobs away from men)... often have nothing else to resort to but selling their bodies.  In countries like Iran, Iraq, and Afghanistan... with many war widows... this is a sad reality for many.  It hurts us more as Muslimahs because we know of the internal struggle these women must go through... knowing what they know.  Do I commit zina or do I let my children starve?? Sadly, that is the choice for many.  I have to admit that yes...if that was my choice... I would commit zina.  Period.  And I would do everything in my power to make sure that my daughters had an education so that they would never have to resort to what their Mom did.  I can have sympathy for the women... for the men who patronize these women, I have no sympathy.

All I can say is that I know Allah(swt) is the Most Merciful, the Most Gracious.  I know Allah(swt) is the Most Just.  May Allah(swt) show mercy on these women and help them find a halal way to earn money. 

Peace.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Azadeh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 May 2005 at 11:05pm

I thought it's mostly rigged in the States!

of course I'd go back and live there!

How do you know Iran needs more khatamis? 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote firewall Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 May 2005 at 10:52pm
if i do a biased documentary on raped, beaten, turtored, prostituted & murdered women in America, I could make America look like a place where women are evilly oppressed too.

a lot of times, when foreign news reported my own country (in SEA), they are sometimes biased too, which left me irked. just bcoz some of the people say negative things, doesn't mean most of us think that way. most people are still positive, yet the minorities gets to go on TV & there you have it -- a biased news.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kim! Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 May 2005 at 7:43pm

Hi again,

Look, I _know_ it's not all gloom and doom in Iran and that the West has a fairly bent view of Iran, but from what I have read and people I have spoken to, I really don't think that Iranian people got what they bargained for when they fought for their revolution. It appears that religion was then forced upon them, instead of being something people took up joyfully.

Hopefully human cloning will be perfected during Khatami's lifetime ;) - whatta guy! Iran needs more Khatamis, in my opinion.

Kim...  

 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MOCKBA Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 May 2005 at 6:52pm

You have not mentioned anything that i could deny completely, therefore i can't but agree with you, too. And that is the beauty, i guess, of being able to form a multi-dimensional picture.

Some of Iran's problems are surely brought upon by the country itself, but with active involvement of external forces it is difficult to distinguish who brings up what.

Revolutions are artificial, too. Venezuela, Ukraine, Georgia, Haiti, Indonesia. Power does not need to be always given... sometimes it is taken by force, some times it is stolen but made to appear otherwise.

It is said that during the time of the Dajjal (The False Messiah) appearance will not conform with reality. We can't say we have reached this time with assurance but we are definitely getting closer...

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kim! Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 May 2005 at 6:08pm

Mockba - I agree with you a certain extent - the West can be a Bad Friend, but it must surely also be true that many of Iran's problems have been brought upon themselves. I mean, _who_ demanded the revolution? Who let the Ayatollah have that much power?

Kim...

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MOCKBA Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 May 2005 at 5:36pm

there is nothing more rigged than the artificial world headed by america and her allies... if evidences to get a license to invade a country and bring down unimaginable horror upon its citizens is fabricated what on earth makes you so convinced that your votes are not.

yes there is prostitution in iran, there is theft, there is murder, rape but at least it is not something which is openly practiced and advocated by the government or the media of the country... it is unconditionally forbidden.    

if Iran was given a chance to live and trade without america and her allies barking at its doors, continuously sowinq seeds of discord among its people and meddling with its internal affairs things might have looked different. its amazing how bush and his allies have people's blood to quench their thirst for oil... what lies they are prepared to tell for oil... and Iran happens to have some.

It may be dramatic watching veiled prostitute narrating her sadness and pain... but resorting to the solution she has chosen to ease her condition is not the best option from what could be available... there are lines not to be crossed even in extreme situations.



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