creation never happened!

Jesus seems to have interesting ideas on slavery.  From the Bible: *Whoever is captured will be thrust through; all who are caught will fall by the sword. Their infants will be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses will be looted and their wives ravished.* - The Bible - Isaiah 13:16

Hmmmm, Jesus came waaaaaaaay after Isaiah.  I take it you never went to Sunday School as a child???

As for Creation vs Evolution.  I do not believe the two are mutually exclusive.  We know not how or in what manner God created us.  The Holy Books all say we were created from Dust/Clay.  Given the theories of the Earths origins and the cosmic forces that shaped the Planet and the waters and eventually us, we literally came from Cosmic Dust.  Thus, the books are correct, even if you break it down to a Big Bang.

--"The quran is a book of science, it is a book of Law, it is a book of everything.  Everything big and small is mentioned in it."--

Historians know that religions borrow from each other. Man made from clay is a famous myth you can find in Babylonian and Greek mythology for example. It was borrowed by the Bible, then by the Quran. You learn that at school when you study Middle-Eastern civilizations.

I mentioned the verse where heaven and earth can talk. I did not hear a scientific explanation about that.

assalam alikum,

The Quran said to be kind with anybody and there is no compulsion in Religions. Mohammad (saw) was dealing with Jews and Christians, he never attack them or kill them. He said to respect peoples whatever they believe and do not attack them or treat them bad. The only time Muslims can do war is for defending them shelf from the attacker, but there still strict rules in war. They can�t kill women, children, old peoples, or infirm peoples. Also they only can do the same things as the attackers do to them, nothing more. When the attackers want to stop fighting (war), Muslims have to stop fighting and be peaceful. Allah also said in the Quran �Saving one person live is like saving all humanity, kill one person life is like killing all humanity,Allah dont like aggressor�

There is one time, Mohammad (saw) was in the Masjid with his companions, there were an unbeliever who came in and did his nature call in a corner of the Masjid. The companions were furious and wanted to beat him up but Mohammad (saw) refuse it. He said to let him finish and let him go. When he finish, he order his companions to get a bucket of water and clean it. He said that Muslims should make it easy for other not complicated it.

There was a time that Mohammad (saw) neighbor was a Jew men, he always trying to make Mohammad (saw) angry by putting many garbage, stuff on his lawn EVERYDAY. Also he treats Mohammad (saw) bad and annoys him. Mohammad (saw) never said anything about it. One day Mohammad (saw) got home and except his lawn to be dirty again, but it wasn�t. For three days it was like that. He asks someone about what happen to his neighbor and he learn that the Jew men was really sick. He went to visit him and tell him he missed him. The Jew men ask him why he being so nice, Mohammad (saw) answer that Allah said to be always helpful and nice to his neighbors. At that moment the Jew men said La Elah Ella Allah.

There one time Mohammad went to Taif, the Audia Arab town. He was preaching about Islam and the non muslims trow him stones and beat him so much that he was bleeding everywhere! The Angel Gabriel even come to see him and ask him if he want Allah kill all the peoples of Taif. Mohammad (saw) mercy just simply refuse it and pray to Allah to forgive them and have mercy on them.   

Also there many time that the non muslims beat, trew stones at Mohammad (saw), also kill and hurt his family members and the muslims. When they were kick out far from Mecca, years after they win and was abale to rule the land. THe peoples who hurt them was so sure that Mohammad(saw) and the Muslims will do vengance agaisnt them for what they did to them (Muslims) in the past. At their suprise Mohammad (saw) and the muslim never did vendenge or hurt them in any way. They let them live their beliefs peacefuly.

hope that answer to you some of the answers

wa alikum assalam

Angela wrote: Darwinism is full of problems.  But, you have to look past Darwin and look towards certain realities.  Where did oil come from?  Dinosaurs and plant life in ancient swamps.  Why are there a dozen different species of Large cats?  Adaptation (or evolution).

You are looking at the idea of adaptations, and small differences in one species. This is not the theory of evolution. This is part of the evidence they use to make their theory.

What you are speaking of does not prove that something came from nothing. It does not begin to even touch the theory.

angela wrote: Adaptation is the essense of this planet's variety.  Plants, animals, fish.  All species can be traced through the adaptation of the species. Evolutions basic flaw is that is claims that all of this can be done without God.  Athiests claim cosmic accident caused us to develop on this Earth.

Yes, it is called the theory of evolution, which they try and use inductive reasoning from the ideas you mentioned above to prove their ideology and assumed metaphysical principles. You cannot say you find the theory to be even complimentary to your beliefs as a Christian without also accepting the underlying premise that is at the bases of the theory. You cannot seperate the two. You can take the observations you have mentioned above, and put them into another belief, but it is not the theory of evolution. Those observations are not the "sole property" of the theory of evolution. Though they would like everyone to think so.

angela wrote:   However, Creationism itself does not stand up to scrutiny.  If you literally translate the origins per the Quran, Bible and Torah, you come up with a world only 6-8,000 years old.  Even if you take the 6 days of Creation as 1000 years a piece as I have seen by creationists, that makes the world 12-20,000 years old.  Still not nearly the 4 billion years its been since God created this rock.

The Quran does not give a date to creation. The 6-800 years old birthdate is Jewish and Christian. Muslims cannot say one way or the other just what the date was when Gd created it. Gd leaves that up to us to figure our or speculate about.

angela wrote: God's wisdom is far greater than our own.  Why would he take 3.5 billion years to create something he could do overnight?  I'm sure he had his reasons.  He is a God of order and law.  If he says that the tides are ruled by the gravitational pull of the Moon, then who are we to argue his law.

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angela wrote:   We are intelligent people, we can see the evidences of this Earth's geological and biological history.  There is no direct link from the other Homid species to Humanity.  Who says they could not have existed? Nothing is known about them.  There is even debate if the Neaderthals were a separate species or just a sub species.  But, facts remain that between 300,000 and 40,000 years ago, another group of sturdy people lived in Europe.

Which means only that. To try and imply that humans devleoped from that is conjecture. The Quran does not mention anything about other species. And again, the Quran does not give a birthdate for the earth. That they existed does not cause any problems with the Quran.

angela wrote:   I can believe in God and believe in Evolution (or Adaptation).  I can believe in Creation and Evolution.

COntradictory. The theory of evolution is not adaptation. Adaptation is an observation used by theorists to prove the theory of evolution. Adaption is not the theory of evolution, which presupposes the idea of natural selection and a universe that has no purpose or intelligent creator. It is opposed to a teleological universe. Hence, you cannot believe in both. You can believe in adaptation, and your bible, but not evolution and your bible, or else you have to make some huge adjustments to it.

angela wrote: God guides the past, present and future of his planet.  Muslims are fond in saying nothing is done but by his will.  So, perhaps the reasons for the slow adaptation of this planet to its current form was to give us the blessings of this world.

You are mingeling the two ideas, evolution, and adaptation together. They are not equivalent. Gd's will does not mean evolution. Having a creator implies a teleological universe. Blessings stem from such a universe. The theory of evolution is anti-thetical.  

peace