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USA1
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Although Israel has occupied this land, there is no excuse for no dialog to the conflict. There are many issues sorrounding this but, the main point is that Israel cannot be moved so, there needs to be global dialog in a positive direction that can give the Palitinians their land back. At least to 1968 borders. However, niether side wants to partake in a positive dialog. The hate for Jews is now beyond repair and the only action now is a violent one. 3 generations have now been bred to hate Jews. We cannot remove that hatred with dialog. Our current situation is now claiming more hated but, this time not for Jews. |
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They just don't get it!
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lovetabuleh
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I want to direct your attention to what Israfil wrote in the "Media Bias" (topic a couple topics below this one on the list). he brings up an integral point that was brought up before in an article i read. He talks about the role of the Right wing Christain authority in the American Govt. in this Israeli aggression. here is the excerpt by Israfil: "... I'll tell you why the news media or American government are siding with Israel. This has nothing to do America but American policy which in this case is promoted by the Right Wing Christian groups that are very much influential to the President of the United States. Most Right Wing Christians are promoting this (both directly and indirectly) self-fulfilling prophecy which they wish for Israel to annihilate its enemies that being the neighboring Muslim countries which eventually would lead up to the Messianic arrival. So of course most of the media will promote seemingly objective news to the people making the sounding of the news more inclined towards Israel than others. However all news media are subject to criticism. Al-Jazeera is not objective whatsoever either. Any media which represents an ethnic group or nationality is subjective. The only objectivity in the media is what is being reported not the cause of it" |
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Ginghis
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Amalhayati2, applying your your quote to the the concept of root cause I can draw 2 conclusions. 1. The media reports are misleading and it would be impossible to make a good decision or have right thinking by allowing media reports to be considered fact. and/or 2. The right wing Christians are an external agitator with an agenda and should be considered a part of the Arab/Israeli conflict. |
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Jockey
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The hate for Jews is now beyond repair and the only action now is a violent one.
There is no hatred towards jews, what we hate is the jewish state, which we hope to uproot it soon. Jews have lived in palestine peacefully with muslims for hundreds of years and they did not suffer even a tiny fraction of what they did from the europeans, germans, spaniards etc.. Our problem is with israel, not the jews. |
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Ginghis
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If you could have your way Jocky, how would you solve this? I really don't think we can turn the clock back. Even in this post we can't agree on how far to turn it back. Personally I would turn Jeruselem into an international city, under no one nations/peoples rule, and pour money into all of the surrounding areas for economic and infrastructor developement. I would assume that all people can be trusted and deal with breeches of that trust on a case by case basis. does anyone else have a magic wand idea?
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kashmiri
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Even i think that the major cause of the fight is the religion....but again to make it the only reason for such kind of a battle is not justified.. and yes if the religion would have been the main cause, then the scenario would surely have been quite different........ talking about the question of the past that should be taken in consideration to move back... yes there should be a proper scalee for that...if israil goes too back to say that palestine is our state....then i say that spain belongs to muslims!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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s666
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may not be brother, andalusia is a conquered territory. muslims do not belong there. they are the invaders. israel and palestine is quite a difficult question to answer. what about starting from the old testament? |
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Jockey
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How i would solve this Ginghis?
First Take the facts into account which are: Israel cannot sustain itself even for one month without 1-american Aid/support. 2- The protection of the arab dictatoships that surround it and protect it from the Muslim masses who are ready to die for Palestine. Second: Break the ring that protects israel, through a change of regime in one of the arab countries (possibly egypt) Third: Close swiss canal, and prevent oil from passing to US, Europe. Open the gates of Sinai for the Muslim Mujahideens and Army to pass to palestine. I can bet my life on it: Israel will disappear within no time. Hizbullah is showing us today How vulnerable this defacto state is. |
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