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What do you think of Obadiah Shoher's views on the Middle East conflict? One can argue, of course, that Shoher is ultra-right, but his followers are far from being a marginal group. Also, he rejects Jewish moralistic reasoning - that's alone is highly unusual for the Israeli right. And he is very influential here in Israel. So what do you think? uh, here's the site in question: Middle East conflict

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Ginghis wrote: A few questions. If Moslems had the ability to make the ME look just the way they wanted (geographically), how would it look? Is there a map anywhere that depicts this? Do the Jews have any claim to any land in the Middle East as far as Moslems are concerned? Could Christian and Jewish religious centers be left intact and honored in a completely Moslem ME?

good qestion!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/islam/history/spain/

In the history of Islam (the pure, 'unpolluted' islam ie: less radicals and faceists), Jews and Chritians have lived in harmony with each other.  the 700+ years of Muslim Spain was termed the 'Golden Age' in history books.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_age_of_Jewish_culture_in _Spain

 

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I have come to the conclusion that in the absence of a willingness to forgive wrongs of the past and proceed amicably into the future, all efforts to end the bloodshed and innocent death and suffering will fail.

As you can see, unraveling history to correct the 'root cause' is a fools errand.  Wherever you encounter an injustice and propose a corrective for actions of past generations, you will always create another (current time) injustice.  And this injustice will fuel hatred of succeeding generations.  What is wrong here is the use of history and historical events as an excuse to fuel further hatred and to justify further agression.

The trouble for ordinary citizens of each of the involved countries is that some elements in their local power structures (whether the government as in Syria or Israel's case or others, such as Hezbollah) depend upon the conflict (and creation of further injustices) for their own sustinance; in that case fueling hatred and resurrecting injustices long ago as an excuse to murder further registers in their minds as a gain.

Until other ordinary citizens decide that they are tired of suffering and dying in order to further their bosses aims, and starve the bosses of respect and fresh bodies the suffering will go on and on endlessly.

George Galloway has spoken against the occupation.  incredible interview and fierce replies!

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article14391.htm