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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 December 2006 at 1:24pm

Assalamu 'alaykum wa rahmatullah wa barakatuh

Originally posted by Hanan Hanan wrote:

and even after Whisper exposed you

"exposed" You know the only reason why all these accusations continued after page 1 of this thread was that I decided Not to lie!

I could have easily told everyone that I am an Afghan and typed a sentence in Farsi and that would have been the end of it and no one would take any such accusations seriously anymore. But since I immediately told the truth, that I am Not an Afghan, some people like you duende and whisper suddenly became more suspicious...ironic that lying could have made me look truthful and telling the truth made me look like a liar... as prophet Mohammad pbuh prophecised in a hadith, a time will come when the truthful will be regarded as a liar and a liar will be regarded as truthful...

Originally posted by Hanan Hanan wrote:

Stay on the subject, and please prove your point with something more than a reference to your own thread

Well actually, my other thread is quoting links from English Al-Jazeera...and a link from a website that quotes from Indian newspapers.

 

Originally posted by Duende Duende wrote:

Sawtul, when I said you had not responded to Usama�s post, it was
because you failed to notice the significant political points he
brought up.

Well I answered at least 3 things that he brought up (1)He said "hezbullah" are nationalists-I said they arent, (2)He said they are not hezbushaytan- I explained again that they are (3) He said Muslims shouldnt initiate war- and I said he is right but Israel had ALREADY initiated the war.

 

Originally posted by Duende Duende wrote:

�So along with Israel, Lebanon was designed to serve as a 'thorn in
the side' of the Muslim Ummah.�

You haven�t acknowledged this.

Well maybe because this topic has little to do with Syria.

Originally posted by Duende Duende wrote:

As an anti-Hezbollah (and ex-shia) it
seems you are only able to spit venom and not dispassionately
appraise the political circumstances.

Actually I havent been very passionate about Shiism on this thread, I just made some predictions along with explanations, then all my predictions came true and then I mentioned the Facts that proved what I had said was true.

Originally posted by Duende Duende wrote:



�Lebanon must remain in the hands of the Muslim Ummah rather
than the hands of enemies of Islam. It is better for it to be part of a
more viable nation, such as Syria.�
Why do you remain silent on the position that Lebanon would
actually do better to accept rule from Syria? Is this not an important
point to discuss when deciding whether or not Hezbollah are doing
Lebanon and the Muslim Ummah any good?

The Syrian government is run by Alawis, a very extreme shiah sect (even though it has a Sunni majority) and its government funds and supports the so called "hezbullah" so I obviously dont support them either.

Originally posted by Duende Duende wrote:


�Moreover, it is not a victory for the Muslim Ummah if Muslims
initiate military conflict. It is contrary to the methodology of the
Prophet (saaw) to initiate conflict unprovoked and nonpreemptive.�

Only the wise Muslim can accept this truth. And in order to be wise,
it takes a lifetime of experience and rather deeper thinking than
you�ve displayed across this forum so far.

I already answered this on page 13 in response to brother "usama". Israel has already initiated war against the Palestinians and has invaded their land, so they have made war on our Muslim brothers and as you may know, in Islam we do not care about our brothers nationality. The lands of Palestinians are our lands and our lands are theirs.

But not only that, Israel also attacked Lebanon, so even IF the so called "hezbullah" (or Hezbushaytan) are Nationalists, or even if they hate the Palestinians (whom they claim to love) then that's still no excuse to stop fighting, especially after their "miraculous victory" which according to Nasrullah himself, the human mind cant comprehend.

Originally posted by Duende Duende wrote:


 (next you�ll be
claiming in some convoluted fashion, that the US is actually colluding
with Hamas to destroy Israel �)

This simply shows that you have not understood what I've been saying.

Originally posted by Duende Duende wrote:


Tell us, was the purpose of this thread just to challenge anyone to
prove you wrong?

You cant prove me wrong anymore because everything I said came true. Remember I told everyone on my first post on page 1 of this thread to "wait and see".

If after all this happened, you still cant see, then how can I make the blind see ?

Originally posted by Duende Duende wrote:


So, you are not claiming to know the truth, simply proving you do
know the truth. Very kind of you to share.

No, I said I knew what was going to happen because I knew what they were planning. I dont automatically know the future.

Originally posted by Duende Duende wrote:


Okay, prove it to me, predict for me Hezbollah�s next move.
I dont know everything that is going to happen, but my prediction came true because I knew what they were planning. I also know (as I mentioned on my first post) that they are trying to take over religious Sunni Muslims, and their first step is to make Shiah leaders popular by making them look like heroes, saviours and the only hope.

 

Originally posted by Duende Duende wrote:


Now if you want to get Whisper off your back, write to him in Farsi,
for example

I already did, but he claimed someone else had written it for me

If I write a million sentences to him in Farsi, do you think it'll make a difference ? He would simply claim that I had someone else type it for me!

Originally posted by Duende Duende wrote:


Oh, and by the way, have you checked out www.youtube lately?

Why ?

Wassalam



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 December 2006 at 1:54pm

The USA and Iran are only Pretending to be enemies, and USA funds and arms Israel while Iran funds and arms Hezbushaytan- who are also pretending to be enemies of eachother.

Poor chap.

Cornered by two of the most lethal weapons of our Board!

Even I have started to pity his Tora Bora by now.

 

Yes, Iran has come to gain a huge lot. Yes, her position has been strengthened across the region through this geopolitical earthquake. But to present it as if it were some Neo-Con (or our friend�s other masters�) gift reminds me of a real nice Turkish lad who sold me a whole Calvin Klien T-shirt, in an Istanbul side street, a couple of years ago, for a mere fiver.

 

This also reminds me of an old Punjabi tale.

Their was a poor chronic hunch-back living, I am not too sure where, but they say near Heer�s village. Just don�t ask me the location, but it�s some place of exceptionally beautiful women (if it's not near Jhang then at least it does exist in Waris Shah�s and almost half the Punjab population's collective imagination). This poor chap (not Waris Shah, he was the poet who scribbled a 160 page poem � Heer Ranjha) I mean the man with the bad back, had tried all sorts of remedies and also tricks for straightening his back.

Nothing ever worked.

 

One morning, this poor chap (again, not Waris Shah of the 160 page love poem fame, but the other chap with a bad back) was doing something in a cane field. (It won�t be at all decent even to ask what he was doing there at that hour. And, even outright indecent of me to tell you).

 

The village bully was returning from some wild drunken do. He thought it would be fun to kick this man in the back and roll him over in the ditch below.

 

He did.

And, the poor chap (not Waris Shah, but our fella with the bad back) stood up straight laughing and jumping about in disbelief. �Kube noo�n lut raas aa gaiye�

 

Our global bully didn�t know that his drunken kick would straighten Iran�s back!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 December 2006 at 1:59pm

Originally posted by Whisper Whisper wrote:

Our global bully didn�t know that his drunken kick would straighten Iran�s back!

Yes they did, INFACT EVEN I KNEW IT!!!

http://www.islamicity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6007& ;PN=1&TPN=1

They knew exactly what they were doing and I have already explained the how and why on so many posts.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 December 2006 at 3:26pm

No, I said I knew what was going to happen because I knew what they were planning. I dont automatically know the future

What a great day of great laughs.

He knew what they were planning for the world but todate he does NOT know what he is himself.

Brethren, does anyone know of a good shrink in the US?

(Sorry, no need to ask you. The one who knows everything plus about everything and a wee more in this world must know about one near his own precinct)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 December 2006 at 3:37pm

"exposed"

This is the biggest give away. Emoticons. Iranians or, for that matter, anyone with a richer culture, a richer vocabulary, a more intricate social weave is prone not to use these.

It's very much an American thing, like you will never find fellow travellers, in Spain or Pakistan talking Base Ball through some bus journey.

Yes they did, INFACT EVEN I KNEW IT!!!

I know, you are exceptionally smart. That's the exact reason why we refuse to accept your fable about accidentally turning up as an Afghan!

I know, it's exactly 03:49 in Teheran right at this moment, but could you please tell us what are doing at this hour? and what else did gaad tell you about the world?

By now, we all know your logical location and I can bet on it, it's the US. Now, because of your proven falseness, the onus is on you to prove it to be otherwise. And, please, this once just without any of those emoticons.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 December 2006 at 12:34am
Just out of interest, I asked Sawtul if he had visited YouTube.com. His
response, instead of telling us he can't, was an innocent "why?"

Censorship fears rise as Iran blocks access to top websites

Robert Tait in Tehran
Monday December 4, 2006
The Guardian

Iran yesterday shut down access to some of the world's most popular
websites. Users were unable to open popular sites including
Amazon.com and YouTube following instructions to service providers to
filter them.

Similar edicts have been issued against Wikipedia, the internet
encyclopaedia, IMDB.com, an online film database, and the New York
Times site. Attempts to open the sites are met with a page reading:
"The requested page is forbidden."

The clampdown was ordered by senior judiciary officials in the latest
phase of a campaign that has seen high-speed broadband facilities
banned in an attempt to impede "corrupting" foreign films and music. It
is in line with a campaign by Iran's Islamist president, Mahmoud
Ahmadinejad, to purge the country of western cultural influences.

Sawtul wrote: "Actually I havent been very passionate about Shiism on
this thread, I just made some predictions along with explanations, then
all my predictions came true and then I mentioned the Facts that proved
what I had said was true."

This just proves you haven't understood me. I didn't say you were
passionate about anything. I said you are incapable of dispassionately
discussing anything. Look it up.

Sawtul wrote: "Well maybe because this topic has little to do with Syria."

Thanks for another laugh Sawtul
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 December 2006 at 1:13am

Just out of interest, I asked Sawtul if he had visited YouTube.com. His response, instead of telling us he can't, was an innocent "why?"

Thanks for such Baker Street (Sherlock Holmes) trap. Haven't stopped laughing, since.

Censorship fears rise as Iran blocks access to top websites
Of course, the Iranians know they are unable to visit this site!!!!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 December 2006 at 5:57am

Whisper, Duende and Hanan, everybody can see that you 3 are trying your damn hardest to drive away Sawtul and/or make him trip up so your point about him is proven and get him kicked off the forum.

It's been going on long enough and it is frankly, rather pathetic.



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