History of Muslims

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 Angel wrote:

 unity1 wrote:

It is quiet surprizing to note that West are making progress by moving away from the teachings of their religion but we are lagging behind because we are moving away from the teachings of our religion.

I think you make a mistake in comparing Islam and the West for one thing the West is not a religion or just one nation, it comprises of many things which does also include Islam because of some western�people who have�choosen to become muslim.�Islam is pretty much�on its own and is not a place.��Now if you say Christianity and Islam yes you may have a point, but it seems you have equated the West as Christian because you mention "their religion" the west is not Christian (even thou it comprises more of the religion), this is like saying that the east is Islam, which it isn't, the East also comprises of many religions and nations, the East is not a religion either so you can't say they are moving away from their�religion (if they are).

If might be better to rephrase it: It is quiet surprizing to note that Christianity is�making progress by moving away from the teachings of their religion but we are lagging behind because we are moving away from the teachings of our religion. 

From what I know, Christianity had to change for it to stay, it realised that to keep the people some things had to change and change with the times, a religion is dependent on its folowers to survive. Islam needs to do the same. And Islam also needs a central body like Christianity�to regulate those changes in a proper way otherswise people will make their own interpretation left right and centre, and it seems some people will make fatwas whether they are in a position do so or not. I truly think if their was a central body, then places like some places in Africa who are islamically run but do things in a corrupt way, just look at Sudan�and most of the Middle east would be in line with the same teachings, Arabia wouldn't be so different to Iraq or Afghan since things would be the same, and those living in the west would also be inline with middle east and Sudan. The Catholic church is pretty much run the same with the same regulations and with any changes posed it has to go before the vatican, but Islam and mosques do not have this, so teachings would go by the way side, scholars can only do so much and then it is sort of by their own interpretations and understandings.

Anyway, just my thoughts and I'm sure there is room for improvement, and another thing Islam needs to compromise on some things and this Islam, or should I say muslims will not do. If you are in a relationship with another and a need to co exist,�compromises need to�be made.�

 If we really want to win a respectable position in this world and want to become a progressive nation, then we should follow the true teachings of Islam.

Islam is not really a nation��if it were then it should be in one place/country with the country name Islam  

Asalam Aalaikum

Actually you misunderstood me ,everyone knows that West is not a religion itself but majority of the Western People are Christians and the Western Scientists are mostly Christians and some of them are also jews and atheists.

An article has also been written on this subject: 

"Seperation of Church and State" (I donot remember the name of the author) but If you read the article ,you will come to know that how west started to make progress and started industrial revolution in their countries.

The Classical and as well as the Modern Christian  Missionaries and pops believe that Science cannot be compatible with Christianity and thought that by taking part in Scientific advancement and technology ,their nation will become deviant and would move away from the teachings of their religion. This narrow minded approach of their Christian Missionaries and Pops created a resentment in the Western world who were desperate to make advancment in Science and Technology and this determination in the western world was caused by the acheivments of Muslims in the field of Science and Mathematics during the medival period when Muslims were making great progress but on contrary West was living in dark ages.

Regards,

Edited by unity1