Where is the Injeel?

I'm looking forward to your elloboration.  The statement that the Injeel is in the Gospels but not the Gospels is kinda a cop out.  (sorry sweetie)  Why would any being allow for his message to be corrupted so? 

Many muslims argue with me on the Gospels because they were written anywhere from 20-100 years after the Crucifixion, they are complete fabrications. 

Its very upsetting.  The whole basis of Islam is that the Truth was lost from Moses and from Jesus (pbut).  That their scriptures were corrupted.

If this is the case, why did he not preserve them in the "same" manner he's preserving the Quran.

AnnieTwo wrote: Angela wrote: Now, given that Moses (pbuh) supposedly wrote the Torah (which included the 1st 5 books of the Old Testament) and that Muhammed (pbuh) wrote down the Quran as it was revealled, why did Christ not write down the Injeel???? This is already been answered.  Jesus' followers wrote down Jesus' mesage.

So did Muhammed's (pbuh) companions.  They wrote down while he revealed.  So, why did Jesus (pbuh) not direct his followers to do the same????

Angela wrote: I'm looking forward to your elloboration.  The statement that the Injeel is in the Gospels but not the Gospels is kinda a cop out.  (sorry sweetie)  Why would any being allow for his message to be corrupted so?

Sounded like a copout to me or a little play with words.

Angela wrote: Many muslims argue with me on the Gospels because they were written anywhere from 20-100 years after the Crucifixion, they are complete fabrications.

All the gospels except John's were written prior to 70AD.  When your Muslim friends tell you this, point out to them that the Qur'an was not put into book form in the lifetime of their prophet.  It took 22 or 23 years to write.

Angela wrote: Its very upsetting.  The whole basis of Islam is that the Truth was lost from Moses and from Jesus (pbut).  That their scriptures were corrupted.

And they are wrong.  There is no verse in the Qur'an that says that.

Angela wrote: If this is the case, why did he not preserve them in the "same" manner he's preserving the Quran.

He did.

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This is already been answered (to Mishmish.  I gave her an article to read on this subject.)  Jesus' followers wrote down Jesus' mesage.

So did Muhammed's (pbuh) companions.  They wrote down while he revealed.  So, why did Jesus (pbuh) not direct his followers to do the same???? [/QUOTE]

What makes you think he didn't?  When Jesus told his disciples to go and preach the gospel to all nations, do you think he meant that it would be an oral gospel for all time?  Or do you think that Jesus expected or even asked his disciples to write down his message so others could read it and preach it also?

Bismillah irrahman irrahim

Assalamu alaikum

I think to properly understand it we have to start from the start, Allah swt created humans to see who follows the right path. He gave us free will. Another side point could have been to show the importance of hidden motives of creatures i.e. shaytan, how he was very noble but that was not his true colour.  Now if we say that Allah swt lets us indulge in wrong but if He was Most Merciful, He would not, be a wrong way of thinking.  This whole idea would negate the idea of free will and a reward at the end for choosing the right path. 

Another point is this life is a test. Every body knows there is some sort of difficulty involved when you use this word. Succession of Messengers (as) was a test as it is hard on self to admit that what i have got is not useful anymore. So you leave what you grow to love which is also hard. We are told that shaytan asked permission to lead us astray and it was given. Now best way for doing this would be corrupt the minds of nobles and people in authority. Now those people changed what did not suite them and Allah swt let it happen due to the fact that there were still Messengers (as) coming. Allah swt let it happen because if a law in its true form is still among the people of earth then there is no point sending another Prophet (as) with new laws. 

The true teaching did not totally disappear as there were many christians who embrased islam as soon as they became aware of it, that was completion of their belief because they were told about coming of Last Prophet (saw) and following him. 

Now reason why Holy Quran is guarded against any evil is because its the last divine book. There is no book or message coming after this, so our Lord being Most Merciful made sure that true guidance stays out till the last day.  Allah swt says that He does not give the wrong doers an excuse against Him, so thats why Holy Quran stays in its original form. 

I cant comment on whether injeel in its original form was written down or not because we are not been told of this in Holy Quran or Ahadith. Even if it was written down, maybe follower of Isa (as) had to hide it to protect it ofcourse. I am saying this because if people against Isa (as) were so strong that they killed the person who they thought was Isa (as), they would have surely done damage to the Book as well.

Believe me sister sending Prophets (as) one after the other is also a test as i already said. Thats where whispering of shaytan come in. Its natural to have pride in your belonging but Allah swt wants to see what is more dearer to you.

I pray that may Allah swt help you in your quest and guide you to straight path and His pleasure inshaAllah cos i know thats what you are looking for. ameen 

wassalam

Fatima you said:

>>>>I think to properly understand it we have to start from the start, Allah swt created humans to see who follows the right path. He gave us free will.<<<<<

Perhaps your iitial premise here is bad....First off Why would God create life forms to see who would follow him? He knows which of those life forms that would follow him.....?