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    Posted: 28 June 2006 at 10:55am

I have seen a HUGE number of circular and unending arguments about the validity of the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. 

Now, from what I understand, the Muslims believe that Jesus Christ (pbuh) revealed a book called the Injeel.  Correct? 

Now, given that Moses (pbuh) supposedly wrote the Torah (which included the 1st 5 books of the Old Testament) and that Muhammed (pbuh) wrote down the Quran as it was revealled, why did Christ not write down the Injeel????

Where is this collection of revelations?  Why did God not preserve the words of Moses and Jesus (pbut) like he did the revelations given to Muhammed (pbuh)?

Why is it that God/Allah did not guard all his truths and allowed the confusion to take place to begin with???? 

Why is it that an All Powerful and All Merciful being would not preserve the message of one of his most unique Prophets and creations?

I'm really struggling with this one. 

If there is an Injeel.  Bring it forth.....if you can't, tell me why God would allow the message destroyed when he had it in his power to preserve it, knowing that it would lead billions into Shirk?

 

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Dear Angela,

I understand your confusion on the issue of the injeel.  Sorry I can't give you a definitive answer, but perhaps these verses might help you with this part of your inquiry:  "If there is an Injeel.  Bring it forth.....if you can't, tell me why God would allow the message destroyed when he had it in his power to preserve it, knowing that it would lead billions into Shirk?"

"If it had been thy Lord's Will, they would all have believed - all who are on earth!  Wilt thou then compel mankind, against their will to believe!"  Qur'an 10:99

"And unto Allah leads straight the Way, but there are ways that turn aside: if Allah had willed, He could have guided all of you."  Qur'an 16:9

"If Allah so willed, He could make you all one People: but He leaves straying whom He pleases: but ye shall certainly be called to account for all your actions."  Qur'an 16:93

I guess what I'm trying to put across to you is the notion that the message is there for everyone and anyone in the Qur'an, but even Allah knew not all would take it to heart.

I would suggest you use the search or Q&A on some reliable Islamic sites to try and find an answer to your injeel question.

Hope this is of some small help to your questions.

Peace, ummziba.

 

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Originally posted by Angela Angela wrote:

I have seen a HUGE number of circular and unending arguments about the validity of the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. 

Now, from what I understand, the Muslims believe that Jesus Christ (pbuh) revealed a book called the Injeel.  Correct?


The "injeel" is the Gospel or the Good News.

Originally posted by Angela Angela wrote:


Now, given that Moses (pbuh) supposedly wrote the Torah (which included the 1st 5 books of the Old Testament) and that Muhammed (pbuh) wrote down the Quran as it was revealled, why did Christ not write down the Injeel????


This is already been answered.  Jesus' followers wrote down Jesus' mesage.

Originally posted by Angela Angela wrote:


Where is this collection of revelations?  Why did God not preserve the words of Moses and Jesus (pbut) like he did the revelations given to Muhammed (pbuh)?


He did.

Originally posted by Angela Angela wrote:


Why is it that God/Allah did not guard all his truths and allowed the confusion to take place to begin with????


He did.

Originally posted by Angela Angela wrote:


Why is it that an All Powerful and All Merciful being would not preserve the message of one of his most unique Prophets and creations?


He did.

Originally posted by Angela Angela wrote:


I'm really struggling with this one. 

If there is an Injeel.  Bring it forth.....if you can't, tell me why God would allow the message destroyed when he had it in his power to preserve it, knowing that it would lead billions into Shirk?


The Injeel is in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.  God's message was not destoryed.  God did and does have the power to preserve His Holy Word.  Those who say that He didn't make God look weak and ineffectual. 

<>Annie 


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14If you are reproached for the name of Christ, blessed are you, for the Spirit of glory and of God rests upon you. On their part He is blasphemed, but on your part He is glorified. 1 Peter 4

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Originally posted by AnnieTwo AnnieTwo wrote:

The Injeel is in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.  God's message was not destoryed.  God did and does have the power to preserve His Holy Word.  Those who say that He didn't make God look weak and ineffectual. 

<>Annie 

Always factual, never equivocal.  Well stated.

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Originally posted by AnnieTwo AnnieTwo wrote:

Originally posted by Angela Angela wrote:

I have seen a HUGE number of circular and unending arguments about the validity of the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. 

Now, from what I understand, the Muslims believe that Jesus Christ (pbuh) revealed a book called the Injeel.  Correct?


The "injeel" is the Gospel or the Good News.

Originally posted by Angela Angela wrote:


Now, given that Moses (pbuh) supposedly wrote the Torah (which included the 1st 5 books of the Old Testament) and that Muhammed (pbuh) wrote down the Quran as it was revealled, why did Christ not write down the Injeel????


This is already been answered.  Jesus' followers wrote down Jesus' mesage.

Originally posted by Angela Angela wrote:


Where is this collection of revelations?  Why did God not preserve the words of Moses and Jesus (pbut) like he did the revelations given to Muhammed (pbuh)?


He did.

Originally posted by Angela Angela wrote:


Why is it that God/Allah did not guard all his truths and allowed the confusion to take place to begin with????


He did.

Originally posted by Angela Angela wrote:


Why is it that an All Powerful and All Merciful being would not preserve the message of one of his most unique Prophets and creations?


He did.

Originally posted by Angela Angela wrote:


I'm really struggling with this one. 

If there is an Injeel.  Bring it forth.....if you can't, tell me why God would allow the message destroyed when he had it in his power to preserve it, knowing that it would lead billions into Shirk?


The Injeel is in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.  God's message was not destoryed.  God did and does have the power to preserve His Holy Word.  Those who say that He didn't make God look weak and ineffectual. 

<>Annie 

AMEN, Annie, AMEN!!  Exactly correct.

May the Peace of the Lord be with You Always.....

Patty

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Originally posted by Aquinian Aquinian wrote:

Originally posted by AnnieTwo AnnieTwo wrote:

The Injeel is in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.  God's message was not destoryed.  God did and does have the power to preserve His Holy Word.  Those who say that He didn't make God look weak and ineffectual. 

<>Annie 

Always factual, never equivocal.  Well stated.

Very true, Aquinian....very accurate and well stated!

Peace be with you.....

Patty

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Angela,

Injeel is my territory. I have done a lot of research on it, becoming almost an expert on detection of Jesus' Injeel. But first sweet salvo: Injeel is not Gospels!

Here is a clue. The answer is in Annie's post.  This is the first time that I am agreeing with Annie but I am not sure if Annie will agree with me on what I write later.

Please bear with me for a few hours. Once I finish my work, Annie will rejoice in what I write.  Then all can rejoice together.



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Originally posted by bmzsp bmzsp wrote:

Here is a clue. The answer is in Annie's post. 

is this it, bmz ?

Originally posted by AnnieTwo AnnieTwo wrote:

The Injeel is in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.  God's message was not destoryed. <>Annie 



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