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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 June 2006 at 10:36pm
Originally posted by Andalus Andalus wrote:

Sr, you do not represent�Islam, the path of the Prophet or the deen of Allh that he brought, not me, not�any of the people I know, nor the majority of Muslims. It is obvious you have an extremely�superficial understanding of the events occuring in the world, and it is�a shame that you have found the path of Gd, but you allow your mind to be used and�littered with the trash of secualr politics, and�to�give more fuel to the western media machine to help this Ummah look like blithering fools. If all you have to say are ignorant and fool hearted statements like this, then as I Muslim I beg you to hold your tongue, that way the rest of the world can always give you the benefit of doubt.


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Andalus, I agree with you, 100%.
If hamas wants to do something then attack army or something, dont kill civilians.

Suicide attacks on Bus and firing rockets on Jewish civilians are giving Palestine issue a bad name, esp muslims.

Some of the people here (N.A) think that all the palestinians are terrorist, Do you know why? Because incidents like these give fodder to the media.

hamas could have played the right cards & showed the world that IDF are oppressing Palestinians, but they gave another reason to EU & western world to hate them by attacking civilians.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 June 2006 at 6:33am
The "dregs" of Israeli society High school drop outs juvenile delinquents
social service cases find their way into a special unit in army known as
the border police. No one volunteers for this service.

This unit has been used for at least the last two years that I know of to
join israeli and palestinian peaceful demonstrations dressed in civilian
clothes where they throw rocks at their own troops.

There is nothing more terrifying to the powers that be running my
country since 1995 than that of a non violent Palestinian movement.

I've spoken about this on american college campuses with Palestinian
activists since 1980. It attracts the very worst elements of Israeli society
right into the open. Militants and Freedom fighters achieve nothing but
prolonging the struggle and the suffering. Revenge in the end is at best
an empty and selfish venture. At the level of state revenge only serves its
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 June 2006 at 6:40am

Still every single Israeli does the military service, This is a military state.

For me, this is not a state.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 June 2006 at 6:42am

Originally posted by Daniel Dworsky Daniel Dworsky wrote:

The "dregs" of Israeli society High school drop outs juvenile delinquents
social service cases find their way into a special unit in army known as
the border police. No one volunteers for this service.

This unit has been used for at least the last two years that I know of to
join israeli and palestinian peaceful demonstrations dressed in civilian
clothes where they throw rocks at their own troops.

There is nothing more terrifying to the powers that be running my
country since 1995 than that of a non violent Palestinian movement.

I've spoken about this on american college campuses with Palestinian
activists since 1980. It attracts the very worst elements of Israeli society
right into the open. Militants and Freedom fighters achieve nothing but
prolonging the struggle and the suffering. Revenge in the end is at best
an empty and selfish venture. At the level of state revenge only serves its
target

Bismillah,

Thank you so much, Daniel, for sharing the truth with people who otherwise wouldn't believe it from someone else!

Would you like to try a sleep method that worked for me?  Get out a really boring topic and try to memorize it.  Now, you can use an interesting topic, and see how that works as well.  When I lived in Jordan and felt absolutely caged I would memorize languages -- not that I remember anything of it, and I kept a calculator by the bed and memorized multiplication.  You have to focus and act like it's really important and whenever you wake up, have a small light to reread what you were trying to learn when you dozed off. 

This would work for a while and it took a while to start working.  I'm sure you've tried biorhytmic feedback method, but I learned this from a friend and find this helpful with calming myself in all sorts of situations, including sleeplessness.

Peace and sweet dreams, ISA.

Al-Hamdulillah (From a Married Muslimah) La Howla Wa La Quwata Illa BiLLah - There is no Effort or Power except with Allah's Will.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 June 2006 at 6:49am

Andalus, this is because of people like you and akm that our brothers are suffering.

Have you finished cleaning Daniel's shoes?

Mots of the Muslims support Hamas. Wake up! That is the truth and you know it!

I wil speak because this is a sin to say nothing when I think there is something wrong here. You are very well willing to help Israelis who simply suffer because they cannot sleep, than our brothers in Palestine.

HemdoulIleh, there is Hamas and Hezbollah and many more!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 June 2006 at 7:01am
Naturally, the common people don't want war, but after all, it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag people along whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. This is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacificists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country.

Hermann Goering, Hitler's Reich-Marshall at the Nuremberg Trials after WWII
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 June 2006 at 8:24am

Wow David,  Great Quote.  Scary isn't it.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 June 2006 at 8:53am

DavidC, I hope you are saying this for the israelis, not the Palestinians.

Because they have not dreamt their hunger, their death, their imprisonment, their exploitation, their wounds.

Muslima

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