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Andalus
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Topic: Daniel Dworsky, Please Read Posted: 22 June 2006 at 4:12pm |
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Arafat died rich with the money meant for his people, who live in festoring refugee camps in terrible conditions. |
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A feeling of discouragement when you slip up is a sure sign that you put your faith in deeds. -Ibn 'Ata'llah
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Andalus
Moderator Group Joined: 12 October 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1187 |
Posted: 22 June 2006 at 4:10pm | |||||||||||||||||||||
It seems you lack a solid education about the region. Fact: The surrounding countries who claim they support their "palestinian brotehrs" and who have made it a point to maintain war for thei own enrichment also rejected allowing any of their lands to be given to them. Fact: The PLO and the late leader have enriched themselves with money meant for their poor people. Arafat dies as a multi millionare, and his kafir wife lives in France living in luxury. He did not benefit his people in one single way, and squandered their rescources. Fact: Hamaz is a hybrid movement influenced by the Egyptian Brotherhood. After a certain point, the EB discovered something amazing: violence does not work. SO their more radical followers broke off and heled found other gorups. Now we have al qaida, and Hamaz, etc, etc. Hamaz exists for the sake of Hamaz, and they, along with the Zionists, have kept poor people in Palestine, including Christians, in dreadful conditions. Fact: Strapping a bomb to yourself with the intention of killing by standards, some of which are children, is called "suicide". We all know what happens to people who commit suicide. Killing children is not a brave and noble act. Fact: I am unable to visit a place where I have ancestral ties because "these people" who push for bombings declare it a "battle field". I would be just part of the land scape. Fact: Hamaz does not represent the path of the Prophet, and has tainted everything the Prophet (saw) stood for and taught, and has twisted the noble teachings about the engagement of war. Their interests rest in their own existance as a group and entity, and I do not believe their interests has anything to do with Islam. Fact: As long as the pwers at be can get groups like Hamaz to do outrageous things in the name of Islam, the world can NEVER focus on the injustices that Israel does. We are not mindless automatons, and should not be gullible creatues so easy to manipulate. The injustices of the Zionist state would become well known and talked about if the groups you find so wonderful would stop taking attention away from the Zionist state.
you sound like a member of a cult. your replies are reactionary slogans, based upon a lack of thought or examination. I beg you to take a course in critical thinking.
I wil speak because this is a sin to say nothing when I think there is something wrong here. I would advise you to get some education on your deen. Angela's request was not a sin, and you used it to cause "fitnah" on this thread with your intellectually bankrupt, pseudo-Islamic cult like mentality. If your "loose lipped diatirbe" becomes a nuisance and disrupts the threads, then you will be edited, although you have the right to make yoruself look as ignorant as you want, you do not have any right to make trouble.
You are a "Mc Donalds" jihadi. You see, you are willing to speak up like some 20th century kharajite, and bless the insane killings of children and mothers through cheap "dime store" fatwas, but the botton line is that you are all talk. Keep in mind, most of the Palestinians are TIRED of their lot in life, and after 3 generations of living in horrid conditions, there is no "jihad" to maintain, these people are struggeling just to eat and meet the basic nessecities of life. So I am sure you are very proud of yourself when you order your french fries, and hang out with sisters to discuss who is not covering properly, but in the end you are all talk. Instead of talking, why not use your energy to go fight in the cause? What are you waiting for? Action sister, not words. Action, not mkaing fitnah. Go do what you think is right. No, it will be much easier to talk nonsense and claim to speak up for people who are suffering. Keep in mind, I have supported the needy "financially" in Palestine where the real help is needed, but cheers and verbal support from McDonald jihadis in the west, some of whom even live on the government doles or go to grad school using some western govenrment money, only does one of two things: makes other Muslims look uneducated and ignorant, or supports a deseprate way of life for millions, who are in that situaiton because you feel they should all keep fighting, or both. Grow up. Save your jihad cheerleading sister, the Ummah has enough sideline quarterbacks. |
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A feeling of discouragement when you slip up is a sure sign that you put your faith in deeds. -Ibn 'Ata'llah
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Angela
Senior Member Joined: 11 July 2005 Status: Offline Points: 2555 |
Posted: 22 June 2006 at 3:35pm | |||||||||||||||||||||
Israel has no capital punishment? That's kinda...hmmm. I'm not sure what to say. Like you said....with the half ton bombs dropped in the neighborhood, I guess you don't need it. Well, I suppose that's that. Thank you for trying to find out. Perhaps one day, after all this is over, I'll write him a letter letting him know "the other side of the story". I believe if you kill someone, you should be ready to know who it was and why that person didn't deserve to die. Thank you. (If the moderators would please close this thread. I would appreciate it.) |
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Daniel Dworsky
Senior Member Joined: 17 March 2005 Location: Israel Status: Offline Points: 777 |
Posted: 22 June 2006 at 3:22pm | |||||||||||||||||||||
No Angela they haven't been executed nor set free. My guess is that they
are still being held on an IDF base. We don't have capital punishment here. We only seem to be able to execute people extra judiciously by dropping half ton bombs on their neighbors. Muslima, When I can't sleep I read your writings... knocks me right out. Pfft. |
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Angela
Senior Member Joined: 11 July 2005 Status: Offline Points: 2555 |
Posted: 22 June 2006 at 3:01pm | |||||||||||||||||||||
I would like to bring everyone's attention to the picture of Ben at the bottom of this article. He's what this thread is about, not HAMAS! I finally know who killed him. I want to know what happened to that man. I want to know if he was executed, if he's in prison or if he's been let free. Please people. Enough already.
Terrorist bombing at Hebrew University cafeteria
The bomber left the bomb in an innocent looking bag packed with shrapnel in the cafeteria. The device was professionally prepared, possibly in one of the factories in the Nablus casbah, which the IDF has refrained from entering since Operation Defensive Shield after Passover. Though classes were not in session, students were taking exams at the time of the blast, and the cafeteria was crowded with diners. There were also numerous students in the building registering for classes for the coming school year. The cafeteria is also near the Rothberg International School, where about 80 pupils from the US and other Western countries had arrived to prepare for the fall semester. Most of the injured were between the ages of 18 and 30. The explosion gutted the cafeteria.
- David (Diego) Ladowski, 29, of Jerusalem
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Muslima
Guest Group Joined: 10 June 2006 Status: Offline Points: 562 |
Posted: 22 June 2006 at 2:18pm | |||||||||||||||||||||
I disagree with you. Without the Israelis, the Palestinians would not need any social work. The Resistance in France was also considered a terrorist group when all of the country was collaborating with the Nazis. The French have short memorey it seems. I like Hamas very much. They are good and loved by the Palestinians, except the Fatah who stole the Palestinians and are just like a mafia. Although I have respect for Arafat, Allah Irham. This is not for me to judge him. He died in poverty on his land contrary to his wife..... |
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DavidC
Senior Member Male Christian Joined: 20 September 2001 Location: Florida USA Status: Offline Points: 2474 |
Posted: 22 June 2006 at 1:32pm | |||||||||||||||||||||
Of course they do a lot of social work in Palestine. It's their fault the Palestinians are destitute and their best young men are blowing themselves up!! Good grief, woman. Without Hamas, Palestine wouldn't NEED any social work. Hamas is like the Black Knight in that Monty Python movie. Hopeless losers with a lot of braggadocio. Again I ask you, have they accomplished anything other than lose lives and land? Hamas is completely incompetent. |
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Christian; Wesleyan M.Div.
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Muslima
Guest Group Joined: 10 June 2006 Status: Offline Points: 562 |
Posted: 22 June 2006 at 12:48pm | |||||||||||||||||||||
Hamas has done a lot of social work in Palestine. Without them, I do not know how the Palestinian would have coped. Why do you think the Palestinians voted for them? Of course, if you use the americans and pro-zionist medias, you will think Hamas is bad. Whe you say that Israle could crush the Palestinians, it shows how patronising you westerners are. You want us to thank you for giving us ressources and help you have stolen from us. I do not mind if daniel is trying to help the Palestinians. At the end of the day, he is still a Zionist. There are lots of Zionist and non-Muslim people on this forum. I have no problem with that but for me, that says it all. Watch the Battle of Algiers. This is about our was of Independence. It shows babies and civilians in bars and Algerian women putting bombs. They were not committing suicide but just putting bombs. We finally got our freedom. Sometimes, you do what you have to do. Otherwise, we would never do anything. Don't you think you have killed innocent Germans during the war, and innocent Italians. There were babies too when you bombed and destroyed Frankfort. You only quote and remember what suits you. This is why you are here. Salam brother Salman. Earlier I did not quote very well what God said. I shall tell you the quote entirely: "Do fear ME. Do not Fear them , IF you are Muslims" In Arabic: "Hafouni Weleta Hafouhoun Ille Kountou Muslimin". Muslima |
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