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BMZ
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I enjoyed reading the Closing banquet in honour of the 250+++ quarrelling bishops: "CLOSING BANQUET The council came to an end on July 25 with a solemn banquet attended by the emperor. They had deliberated for nearly seven weeks, not only about the Arian heresy. An Arabic translation of the canons discussed at Nicea, found in the sixteenth century, shows that they debated on 84 subjects, ranging from the date of Easter (they set the day as the first Sunday, not coinciding with the Passover, after the first full moon following the vernal equinox) to determining whether the clergy could marry (the clergy were enjoined to marry before ordination, but not afterward). Now exhausted, the bishops prepared to make their way homeward. The last speeches had been made. There remained only the ceremonial leave-taking at the banquet, with the emperor sitting at a table in the midst of them. Constantine, stiff with purple, gold, and precious stones, was in good humor. He complimented Athanasius, gave presents to the bishops he favored, and at one point he summoned the unregenerate Bishop Acesius, who possessed a singular regard for the Novatian heresy, which held that only God had the power to pardon sins and that anyone who commits sin after baptism must be permanently refused Communion. Constantine reminded Acesius that the doctrine of the church was now finally established. Acesius made a long speech in defense of his puritan interpretation of the Scriptures. Constantine guffawed, "Ho, ho, Acesius! Now plant a ladder and climb up to heaven by yourself!" And sometime later, Constantine summoned the saintly Bishop Paphnutius and kissed the empty socket, and pressed his legs and arms to the paralyzed limbs, and he was especially gentle to all the other bishops who had suffered under the persecutions. Then the bishops went out through a line of imperial bodyguards with bared swords. |
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BMZ
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Brother Israfil, "Brother BMZSP looming forward to your next response." Didn't notice it the first time I read. "looming forward", that was a nice one. In fact, I am studying the Noahide Laws and the Mosaic Laws, once again. I am trying to correlate and establish two points: Why was there a shortfall of 3 in the Noahide Laws? Why was there a bonus of 3 for Moses? It is quite intriguing when we are told that Jesus took away a few or may be 3 or more but I am not sure! This subject will need further study. BMZ
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DavidC
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Does this sound like any graven images you know?
1Cor. 11:14 Does not nature itself teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him... |
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Angela
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Traditional Christians do not believe in 3 Gods, there is only ONE GOD. So to them they are following this commandment. That much I remember from my 25 years as a mainstream Christian. Only the heterodoxical Christians separate the Trinity into three different beings and even then, God is supreme and anything else is subordinate. |
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AnnieTwo
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I know the truth of how the bible was made, how Jesus (pbuh)was voted to be "divine". Jesus was not voted to be divine. If you are speaking of the Council of Nicea, this Council had nothing to do voting Jesus to be divine. That was established hundreds of years before 325AD in the first century. The Council was called because Arius said that Jesus was created, but nevertheless, he was still divine. The opposite side said that he wasn't created. The Council was called to decide HOW he was divine, not WHETHER he was divine. I pray to one God and one God only, creator of heaven and earth. Annie |
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14If you are reproached for the name of Christ, blessed are you, for the Spirit of glory and of God rests upon you. On their part He is blasphemed, but on your part He is glorified. 1 Peter 4
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Patty
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Dear Maryah, I will just state this briefly, that I DO most certainly read and study the Bible. I believe the Bible exactly, and Catholics certainly believe the 10 Commandments. We also believe that Jesus gave Peter the keys "to the Kingdom" .... as stated in the Bible, and told him that "what ever you loose on earth will be loosed in Heaven and whatever you bind on earth will be bound in Heaven"...this is from the Bible, is it not? We know that Jesus sent the Holy Spirit to the apostles/and to the pope to guide Him in his many decisions regarding ministering to the people who are the Church. Maryah, we have NO OTHER GODS BEFORE GOD. We honor our saints and the adore the Holy Mother as the Mother of Jesus, but we do not place ANYONE above God and we most certainly DO NOT PRAY TO ANY OTHER GOD. There is only ONE God, and every Catholic knows that. And for those from other religions who believe otherwise, they are sadly mistaken. We ask the saints to pray or intercede for us, and that is also biblical. If that were wrong, why would we ask other humans to "pray for my mother, etc." here on earth? As for Aquinian, he/she is NOT a Catholic in good standing, and does not believe as Catholics believe.....which is fine. Everyone is certainly free to believe whatever you decide in your heart is true. But I cannot stand to see someone who portrays themselves as Catholic to teach the exact opposite of my faith. Aquinian failed to answer my questions in regards to him being a member of one of the new heretical/dissident organizations which are outside the Church. It appears he is a member of one of these organizations. (It would be the same if someone came to this site and said they believe in the religion of Islam, and then went on to say many things which YOU, as a good muslim, know to be false.) Anyway, I'll let this thread go back to its original subject. Sorry for any inconvenience. God's Peace. |
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mariyah
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From the old testament of the Bible of the Christians: Exodus 20 verse one: I am the Lord thy God, thou shalt not have any other gods before me: Isn't that one of the Ten Commandments that God gave to Moses? I was raised Catholic, and left because the faith disobeys this law, period. My mother was a coptic christian from what used to be Constantinople, now known as Instanbul. She later in life reverted to Islam after my father died and was happier than I have ever seen her. She even went on the hajj before she died at the age of 72. My Uncle escorted her to Mekkah. To me, this scripture states that you cannot pray to any other god or ask any other person or being to intercede for you. After I obtained my degree in education with the major of history, I know the truth of how the bible was made, how Jesus (pbuh)was voted to be "divine". If a person knows the truth and continues to say, "no, that is not it," and continues to follow his old traditions: Will God hold them accountable for being stubborn and disobedient? Who knows? We have the free agency and will to follow Him on the true path or not. I suggest you read the Bible and stop following the doctrine of man if you stay on the path, is your faith that of habit or faith? Peace be unto you.
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ak_m_f
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If Satan really dosnt exist then why do people worship him? ever heard of Church of satan?
Then maybe people also use God as an excuse for everything that good happnes to them, maybe in reality its all your hardwork and intelliegence? If you deny Satan then you deny God.
Isnt God very much like a magical being? isnt what you cant understand through science is known as magic?
Ofcourse we are creating crisis. I think of person as an arsonist, he has the gasoline ( potential). Satan is like a Flame (wrong path). If you combine both then you burn something down. In an arsonist's case its usually the property. In Satans case he uses you, he makes you follow the wrong path, so you can do the work for him. in the end you end up burning in hell. |
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