50,000 Errors in the Bible

George,

From you: "Why would Allah go to all of the trouble to send down the Qur'an to Muhammad and not let him live to see it put into bookform and leave it up to others to do it?"

Good question: You should ask Paul, Augustine and the other Gospel writers.

bmzsp wrote: George, From you:"This, BTW, cannot be done with the Qur'an because Ulthman destroyed all inerrant copies.  You have nothing to compare your current Qur'an with." FYI, there was no compiled Qur'aan in the form of a hardbound book, when Uthman started his work. Nobody had any solid copy of Qur'aan. He collected, gathered and sifted. Once the Qur'aan was compiled in the order set and given by the prophet, Uthman burnt up all surplus material. There were no copies of Qur'aan burnt. There is therefore no Papyrus 786 or a 2-inch square papyrus 45 available. Qur'aan was already memorised by Prophet, Companions, AbuBakr, Umar, Uthman, Ali and many other Companions. Anyway, the Qur'aan has been around there since 1427 years and we are very happy with that. From you: "The Qur'anic manuscripts found in Yemen have proven serious allterations in the Qur'an" We have been hearing of that for years and nothing has been proven. Looks like the German experts on Arabic are still busy with their "findings".

BMZ,

It is interesting what you wrote:

FYI, there was no compiled Qur'aan in the form of a hardbound book, when Uthman started his work. Nobody had any solid copy of Qur'aan.

Why would Allah go to all of the trouble to send down the Qur'an to Muhammad and not let him live to see it put into bookform and leave it up to others to do it?

Peace

[QUOTE=fredifreeloader]calm down, abrah, settle down old son, no need to get over-excited.  the bible is not a scientific treatise (please dont tell me that the quran is).  things were related by God the way people understood them.  if he had revealed everything, there would be no need for any research, would there?  (sun setting in a pool of muddy water on earth, indeed - quran 18: 86 - as if the whole sun could fit into a pool on earth, i never heard anything so stupid in my life)

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My response:

To the west of the town of Lychnis is a lake170 square miles in area, fed by underground springs that issue through limestone rocks and give out murky water.   Both town and lake are now called Ochrida, about 50 miles west of Monastir.   The water is so dark that the river which forms the outlet of the lake to the north is called the Black Drin.  Looking at the sunset from the town, the observer would see the sun set a pool of murky water (18:86).  It was a question before the boy Alexander -- the dreamy, impulsive, fearless rider -- whether he would put the barbarous Illyricans to the sword or show them mercy.  He showed true discrimination and statesmanship.  He punished the guilty but showed kindness to the innocent, and thus consolidated his power in the west.  This I construe to be the meaning of (Noble Verses) 18:86-87; otherwise these verses do not seem to be perfectly clear

Quran

018.086 Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it set in a spring of murky water: Near it he found a People: We said: "O Zul-qarnain! (thou hast authority,) either to punish them, or to treat them with kindness."

I quote: 'he found it set in a spring of murky water'....Who is he? Zul-qarnain! Therefore Zul-qarnain found it set in a spring of murkey water. The Quran does not say ' Quran found it set in a spring of murkey water'!

Please visit this web that will refute Fredi's statement: http://www.answering-christianity.com/iron_gates.htm

Hey Fredi your Bible says "He set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved.   (From the NIV Bible, Psalm 104:5)" ....lol.......According to Science and the Holy Quran the world moves in an orbit around the sun!

Consider the following Qur�anic verse:

�It is He who created The Night and the Day, And the sun and the moon: All (the celestial bodies), each Travelling in an orbit With its own motion�. [AI-Qur�an 21:33]

abrah said:

(5) Some birds have four feet (Leviticus 11:20-21). lol.....How can birds have FOUR feet? there is no mention of birds in these verses!  the reference is to winged insects! - more of your silly nonsense exposed, abrah!

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My response:  I quote your Bible....