Does this site promote hatred of the West

Bi ismillahir rahmanir raheem

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1. We manage here an Islamic discussion board, thus all members are requested to maintain the decorum as per the standards of an Islamic cultural society. Any joke, or casual statement which the moderators find insensitive, may result in edition or deletion.

Any post which is considered inflammatory to the muslim community will be deleeted without warning. repeated abuses of the Guidlines will result in the person being banned from the forum.

inflammatory:

1 : tending to excite anger, disorder, or tumult : SEDITIOUS
2 : tending to inflame or excite the senses
3 : accompanied by or tending to cause inflammation

Example of inflammatory post; A post about the wonderfull work of the US army in Iraq While the entire muslim world views there Presance there as an invasion.

Edited by rami on 12 November 2005 at 1:39am

http://www.islamicity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2952& ;PN=1

This is exactly what he wrote and I have seen threads "disappear" that were about Soldiers doing good in Iraq.  I know two Iraqis now. One in Basra and hte other in England. Both are grateful for what the US is doing, even if they fear what will happen if the "freedom fighters" win.

wow, 3 pages in 6/7 hours  I think that must be a world record

Oh Alibaba, America wasn't founded on Christianity but Deism, do a little research

Mishmish wrote: Assalamu Alaikum: There are non-Muslims who come to the site to learn. They have been here for a long time. There are others who come here to do otherwise. They are prolysthetizing, trying to bash Islam, or just generally trying to cause trouble. This is an Islamic site. Why would anyone come here to post their beliefs about Christianity? There are Christian sites for that. Why debate whether your beliefs are right or wrong on a site dedicated to another religion all together? If you cannot accept the fact that Muslims do not hold the same beliefs as you, then why come here and post your beliefs? We are not soliciting them. Patty, if we edited or deleted or reprimanded every post that disagreed with Islam, none of the recent threads would be on the Interfaith section. We do not believe Jesus is God. We do not believe in the crucifixion. We do not believe the Holy Spirit is God. We do not believe in the trinity. Most of these are not only subjects that we do not believe, but that are blasphemy and shirk to Muslims. Yet, you have been allowed to discuss them. Posting here is a privilege. If you find it too confining, unfair or "Islamic", you are cordially invited to go elsewhere.

Mishmish,

Everyone knows this is an Islamic cite.  The name gives it away�Islamiccity.  
People come here for a variety of reasons.  My reason is to ask questions about 
Islam and to correct the misunderstandings Muslims have concerning my religion, 
which are plenty.  Surely you don't expect Christians to come here not to defend 
their faith when it is being attacked?  Surely you do not expect Christians not 
to try to correct the misunderstanding of their faith submitted by Muslims?  Is 
it prosthetizing one's religion to correct the Muslim misconceptions of it?

I was impressed by your rules�they sounded fair�and I particularly liked this 
addition:


 
any insulting, derogatory, disrespectfull comments about any faith, prophet, 
holy person or Allah may also result in the person being banned.

I assumed (silly me) that meant that Christians and Muslims were to follow this 
rule.  Yet you allowed the "Crucifixion if a hoax/lie" thread posted by 
AbRah2006 to continue.  His tone and choice of words were very offensive to 
Christians.  It was not until Angela pleaded with the moderators to do something 
and to enforce their rules, that the topic was finally closed.  Why did it take 
Angela's pleas to finally get the moderators to do their job?

Your rule says that you will not allow any insulting, derogatory disrespectful 
comments about Allah, yet you have allowed BMZ's post to remain standing:


 

How can you worship a God who killed his son? I cannot worship such a killer 
God.

This comment is blatant blasphemy against God and yet it has not been censored.  
Why not?  Unless BMZ is implying that Allah is not YHVH.

Muslims are offended by the hard questions and take them as an affront to Islam.  
You must get over it.  Gone are the days when you will not be asked hard 
questions.  The events of 9/11 took care of that.  Many non-Muslims know the 
Qur'an, they have read the Hadiths, they know Islamic history, they read the 
newspapers, they have seen all the violence, they see Muslims killing other 
Muslims, Muslims blowing up Mosques, Muslims blowing up churches, Muslims 
killing former Muslims for leaving Islam, and it goes on and on and on.

I am very disappointed in what I see the bashing of America.  I am an American.  
From what I understand all Muslims consider their Ummah as their "country."  Of 
course America is not perfect and has done some things that I in particular am 
not proud of but neither is the Islamic community (Ummah) perfect and I am sure 
you will agree that Muslims do things that other Muslims are not proud of.  We 
Americans could blast away at some of the atrocities that certain Muslims have 
committed, could we not?  

They did not coin the phrase "war is hell" for no good reason.  My hope is that 
someday all will take the teachings of Jesus Christ and put them into 
practice�solve our conflicts and disagreements at the conference table and not 
on the battlefield.

I participate on three Christian discussion boards and the moderators are very 
strict, especially on one in particular.  They insist that the poster abide by 
the terms of service that they agreed to abide by.  If someone doesn't, they are 
warned�sometimes three times�if they continue to violate the TOS, they are gone.  
Some are so abusive that they are banned after one post.  This goes for all 
posters, Muslims, Christians, Jews and non-believers.


 

Why would anyone come here to post their beliefs about Christianity?

Do they?  What I see is Christians defending their faith.  What is the meaning 
of an interfaith dialog anyway?  Isn't it to discuss what we believe and why we 
believe it in order to promote a better understanding of our faiths?  We don't 
have to agree.  When someone posts a topic that the crucifixion is a lie, 
wouldn't you expect Christians to show Muslims the reason we don't believe it to 
be a lie?  How else are we going to understand each other's beliefs?

There are very few Christians on this board; perhaps it would be better if we 
all left.  Then the Muslims here would be free to talk to each other and say 
whatever they wanted to say against Christianity.  It certainly would lighten up 
the workload of the Moderators�you would no longer need to moderate.  But, of 
course, there would no longer be an interfaith section on this site, would 
there?

The trick in making an interfaith discussion work is for both sides to ask 
questions, not make allegations.

Peace

Alibaba wrote: Muslim nations do not have these ideals established in their forms of government, which is why Muslim nations, as a whole, are rather socially and academically backwards.

This is mainly because of the poverty levels in the countries.  If you look back to the Middle Ages the Catholic Church (the only one at the time, not picking on you Patty. )  Jailed Galileo for his forward thinking and burned people at the stakes for daring to translate the Bible into the Vernacular.  Meanwhile, the Muslim countries were endulging in Science, Math, Philosophy and Astronomy. 

Wars have torn that place to bits starting with the European Imperialism of the 1800s and 1900s.  You cannot blame the people who are suffering now because of those events then.

Salem 1692, Hauns Mill, Mississippi 1960s.  Christians have their own incidents of oppression even in a country founded by persecuted Christians.  Frankly, I find it rather arrogant that a Brit is trying to school a bunch of Americans on what our country was founded over. 

I have a family line that's been here since 1662, Gideon La Plante Merlett.  Look him up on the internet.  That is my ancestor.  I have relatives in Revolutionary forces, Civil War and every major conflict.  My family has spilled blood to make this country free.  But we are not so arrogant and uneducated to think it doesn't have flaws.  No government is perfect.