To those who follow the Sunnah Only

Bismillah irrahman irrahim

Assalamu alaikum

sis alwardah Allah swt tells us in Holy Quran that He is with those who do sabr, bout a while back i decided what u have said and then came across ayah in Surah Al-Imran which mentions how people of previous ummahs were destroyed due to their abandoning of enjoining the good and forbiding the evil while they knew of it.  sis we are called the best of nations due to this exact reason. there is also a hadith which mentions that a person is going to be asked bout his knowledge, if he knew of some thing but did not advise on being asked.

u need to realize that when u r trying to answer some1 with best of ur ability and knowledge, only for the pleasure of ur Lord and to uphold His deen and at the same time being polite and observing manners. then u r earning the reward of Allah swt, if the person finds it in himself/herself to follow the truth then alhamdulillah double the reward for u, if not khair u done ur bit. if u hear bad words for stating the laws of Allah swt then do sabr and again alhamdulillah more thwab so see Allah swt has put so much in for the da'i. i dont know why u want to deprive urself of such reward, i know it is also stated that if what u going to say is going2 cause a fitnah then silence is better.  but u need to analyze the consequences, this forum being sort of dawah way could be giving wrong image of of deen. there is another narration which states that u should choose lesser of two evils and sis due to many factors there is already enuf wrong stuff out there bout our beautifull deen, dont need no more. so i think this day n age some of us some time has to stand up for our deen.

now u mentioned bout not referencing the Ayaat and Ahadith to lesson the confussion but im telling u people would ask proof, and im against this moreso due to one of Hadith Qudsi which states that Allah swt remembers His slave when slave remembers Him. so im sorry but cant let the opportunity go by

lastly sis herjihad, i can tell u one thing making my Lord witness of my innermost intention that arrogance, pride and all this, if seven heaven away would still not be at a comfortable distance for me due to many Ahadith mentioning that existance of even a spec of pride is enuf for to be thrown in hellfire, audhubillah. n im sure i could say same thing bout sis alwardah, ummziba or anybody else who sincerely seeks the path.  my sister tells me that when u have kids u start prefering them and their happiness to ur own. sis if a person tries to adhere to every ruling of our dear Lord and avoids every thing with a slight doubt then u get this love inside u for ur Lord, u put ur Lord first in every dealing of urs, a blessing from Him ofcourse that if some1 is doing something which is in slight contradiction to ur Lord's way disturbs u. u want every1 to come to complete submission, people who state the ruling simply say it for this reason nothing else

i think we should try to tolerate different viewpoints, having patience but at the same time state what is right by our Lord in goodly manner.

wassalam

Assalamu Alaikum Brother Peacemaker and Sisters:

This is a sad subject. As someone who came to Islam as an adult with a very inquisitive mind and a need to be shown what I am being told, I feel that it is a necessity that daleel be given on all matters. Even with daleel there will still be some disagreements, but not all daleel is a clear cut matter.

If we are not supposed to discuss these things, how will we be able to learn? I think that anyone should be allowed to question something they don't understand, or which doesn't make sense, but they should do so in a respectful manner.

When I was first learning about Islam, if I had been made to feel bad for asking the hard questions, I probably would have given up. You must be able to answer questions and present proof without taking it personally. Just as someone who is asking a question or seeking an answer should not be made to feel as if they are doing something wrong for asking. No matter what the question. If the matter wasn't bothering them, they probably wouldn't ask.

I personally ask questions and if something just doesn't make sense I want to know why. That does not mean that I reject something, that means I need to understand it fully before I can accept it. It has to have some basis in logic, and some Islamic proof. I am not trying to be difficult, this is the way my mind functions. That is why I always ask for the daleel. This is something that Aisha, the wife of the Prophet(PBUH) did also. She would ask until it made sense to her. There is nothing wrong in this, and if you don't ask until you get a satisfactory answer, then you will always have a doubt.

I also believe if someone is rejecting an opinion, then they should have proof for this rejection. They should bring forth the Ayat, Hadith, or opinion, that gives them reason to doubt. I think this is only fair. If you cannot give a valid, Islamic reason for why you reject or accept something, then that is your opinion and should not be argued as based in Islam.

The question of music is a very old one and many scholars have different opinions. There are Hadith in which the Prophet allowed music, singing, and dancing. If these were completely forbidden, the Prophet would not have allowed such things, nor taken part in them. There are also Hadith which name certain instruments as haraam, and music as whole. Since, some was allowed and some forbidden, it would be entirely safe to say that music is Makhruh, and you must make up your own mind.  It is entirely up to the individual, as all things always are in the end.

Once you have given your daleel on any subject, you have done the best that you can do. There is no point in arguing further, as you have done your duty as a Muslim, and there is no compulsion in religion. We cannot force another Muslim to conform to something, either for or against, if they do not choose to do so.

What we have to remember is that Allah(SWT) gave us all free will and the ability to process knowledge and seek logic. Your way of processing or understanding something may be totally different from mine, and mine will different from the Sister or Brother next door. If Allah(SWT) had wanted us all to think and be the same, He would have created us that way. So we should accept our differences, point out the right and prohibit the wrong, but in a peaceful, respectful manner that does not make anyone feel personally attacked or denigrated in anyway.

Assalamu Alaikum!

Masha Allah I am also very inquisitive, Sister Mishmish. I had the first debate with my father when I was 8 years old ( Grade 3 ). I asked him that what he had taught me in Qur�an about Sun�s position in the solar system was different from what I was taught in the class room ( well, modern scientific theory conforms to Qur�anic position as far as Sun�s movement is concerned, but it didn't at that time). I remember that it was late night and he was sleeping, I woke him up to discuss the matter ( he had given me the permission to wake him up to ask questions/ discuss any topic, and I used to avail it at will, when I look back, I think, I was really giving him hard time with my little mind).

The point is you and I are same or similar in this respect.

So, a proper discussion with evidences from Qur�an, Sunnah and opinion of Scholars can properly direct us towards the conclusion on any topic.

Now how should an "average knowledge seeker" ( member or guest ), let us exclude you and me, whether Muslim or non-Muslim get the Message of Islam on a topic if half of us are on one side and the other half on other side, and "endless" argument goes on and on with no conclusion in sight? What would be the way of Prophet ( SAW ) and his companions to convey the Message of Islam to the Mankind? Had they not been unified in their position, how would they have conveyed the Message to the Mankind including super powers of the time? By being "unified" doesn�t mean that we may not have our personal differences, or we may not discuss or ask questions, it simply means here that being as one "team" to convey the Message of Allah without any doubt to an average knowledge seeker of Islam.

Jazak Allah Khair for a very good post, Sister Mishmish. .

Peace

Assalamu Alaikum!

Alwardah,

Yes, insha Allah, we will achieve this. Jazak Allah Khair, Sister, and hope that you would continue to take part in all such discussions.

Peace