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    Posted: 03 May 2006 at 2:21pm
I have a quick question.

I assume that everybody would acknowledge that the United States of
America was formed by law in 1787, with the Treaty of Paris, after a War
of Independence
(1775-83) through which the former Colonies
of England broke free of England's Imperialism.

(If anyone disagrees with this, please state your counter-argument.)

Therefore, I assume that everybody will grant me that the United States of
America was formed as an anti-Colonial, anti-Imperialist nation.


Now, just to be blunt, I am told by "my" Main-Stream-Media that
today many, if not most, Muslims believe that America is a Colonial
Imperialist.


Thus, I am given to understand, rightly or wrongly, that many, if not
most, Muslims believe that:

  • America was an anti-Colonial, anti-Imperialist as of 1787

  • America is a Colonial Imperialist as of 2006




Therefore, I would very much like to know when and why America
hypocritically changed over from an anti-Colonial Imperialist to a Colonial
Imperialist just like the British Empire from which it broke away 200 years
ago.

What is the argument? What is the rationalle? In a word, what is the
"Who/what/when/where/why/how" of America's transformation from
anti-Colonial Imperialist to Colonial Imperialist.

Were it up to me, any responses would just be blunt, direct, and to the
point. I have never once in my whole life enjoyed, or found useful,
"diplomatic" language. The Truth is what it is, and it shouldn't have to
hide. If America is a Colonial Imperialist, what are the facts and
logic that lead you to conclude that?

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What is the point of this? Are you testing the waters?
"Every good deed is charity whether you come to your brother's assistance or just greet him with a smile.
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Well lets look at history.  If you consider it, the United States has always been allied with Colonialism.  "Americans" came as British colonists to the United States and performed a holocaust by slaughtering close to 150 million native americans, throughout its establishment.

The U.S. can only be considered anti-imperialist and anti-colonialist when they wanted to establish independence from the British Empire. 

The resumption of their colonialsist ways occured during the Phillipine-American war in 1899.  The Americans shot unarmed civilians, burned entire villages to the ground and placed them in concentration camps where an estimated 200 000-1000 000 000 Filipinos died.  President McKinley expressed a desire to "christianize" the Phillipines.  In fact Mark Twain who was a member of the "American Anti-Imperialism League" protested the war under that organization. 

How is that logic?
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America did not slaughter 150 million Natives.

Catholic Conquistadors in LATIN AMERICA (see?)...

did.
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Moreover, one reason that many Native Americans DID perish...

is because...

when the Puritans stepped off the MayFlower...

they WERE SICKLY AND DISEASED.

Remember how MILLIONS of EUROPEANS died from the BLACK PLAGUE?

They still carried all those diseases with them when they fled to North
America.

They were escaping the HELL HOLE of Catholic Imperialist Police State
Europe.

Nobody seems to understand this simple fact -- life in MEDIEVAL EUROPE
was HELL!

HELL!

HELL!

Nobody seems to understand just exactly what the Puritans were trying to
ESCAPE FROM.

When they gave the small pox, black plague, etc etc etc to the Native
Americans, just by BREATHING on them...

it was "WELCOME TO THE CLUB -- MAN IT SUCKS, HUH!"

Europeans earned their "immunity" to Plague, Small Pox etc THE REAL
HARD WAY.

Nobody seems to recall this fact.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sign*Reader Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 May 2006 at 2:13pm
Bismarck: Add ne�o�co�lo�ni�al�ism    ( to your list just for the sake of definition >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
A policy whereby a major power uses economic and political means to perpetuate or extend its influence over underdeveloped nations or areas: �Strong elements of neocolonialism persist in the economic relations of the rich and poor countries� (Scientific American).
Kismet Domino: Faith/Courage/Liberty/Abundance/Selfishness/Immorality/Apathy/Bondage or extinction.
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From the day white people set foot on the land called "America", it has been a imperial power.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Muslima Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 June 2006 at 8:42am

Bismarck,

I suggest you watch a movie called Z by a director called Costa-Gravas. I think it holds all your answers.

Muslima

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