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    Posted: 30 April 2006 at 11:41pm

"If you believe in freedom of speech, ...you should believe it for those views you don't like."

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Assalaamualaikum

My opinion:
We are accountable for our speech. Allah dislikes vain talk. In the name of "freedom of speech", people say whatever they want and hurt whoever they want. Yes we all can have different viewpoints. We should speak against only those things that are opposing Allah and His Messenger. (and that includes speaking against injustice of any kind).

I would like to add some verses and hadith on speech.

Allah says:

They shall not hear therein (in Paradise) any Laghw (dirty, false, evil vain talk), but only Salam (salutations of peace). And they will have therein their sustenance, morning and afternoon. (See (V.40:55)).  
(  سورة مريم  , Maryam, Chapter #19, Verse #62)

"And when they hear AlLaghw (dirty, false, evil vain talk), they withdraw from it and say: "To us our deeds, and to you your deeds. Peace be to you. We seek not the ignorant."  
(  سورة القصص  , Al-Qasas, Chapter #28, Verse #55)

No Laghw (dirty, false, evil vain talk) will they hear therein, (in paradise) nor any sinful speech (like backbiting, etc.).  
(  سورة الواقعة  , Al-Waqia, Chapter #56, Verse #25)

So leave them to plunge in vain talk and play about, until they meet their Day which they are promised.  
(  سورة المعارج  , Al-Maarij, Chapter #70, Verse #42)

"And we used to talk falsehood (all that which Allah hated) with vain talkers .  
(  سورة المدثر  , Al-Muddathir, Chapter #74, Verse #45)

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Our words and actions are being recorded:
"Kiraman (honourable) Katibeen writing down (your deeds)" ,  
(  سورة الإنفطار  , AL-Infitar, Chapter #82, Verse #11)

There is no human being but has a protector over him (or her) (i.e. angels incharge of each human being guarding him, writing his good and bad deeds, etc.)  
(  سورة الطارق  , At-Tariq, Chapter #86, Verse #4)


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Prophet(saw) said:

Narrated 'Abdullah: The best talk (speech) is Allah's Book 'Quran), and the best way is the way of Muhammad, and the worst matters are the heresies (those new things which are introduced into the religion); and whatever you have been promised will surely come to pass, and you cannot escape (it).  (Book #92, Hadith #382)

Narrated Abu Musa: Some people asked Allah's Apostle, "Whose Islam is the best? i.e. (Who is a very good Muslim)?" He replied, "One who avoids harming the Muslims with his tongue and hands."  (Book #2, Hadith #10)

Narrated Anas: Allah's Apostle was neither a Fahish (one who had a bad tongue) nor a Sabbaba (one who abuses others) and he used to say while admonishing somebody, "What is wrong with him? May dust be on his forehead!"  (Book #73, Hadith #72)

Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Amr: The Prophet said, "A Muslim is the one who avoids harming Muslims with his tongue or his hands..."  (Book #76, Hadith #491)


Allah is Sufficient as a Walee (Protector) and Allah is Sufficient as a Naseer (Helper).
(Surah An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #45)
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Bismillah,

Ameen, Sister Amah.

We are also free not to speak, AngelD.  It's called discretion.

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if you dont have nothing nice 2 say dont say nothing at all
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or if you dont have anything nice to say.. just wait for the moderators to shut down or edit the thread =) hahaha

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Originally posted by Angeldesire Angeldesire wrote:

"If you believe in freedom of speech, ...you should believe it for those views you don't like."

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So does this mean you agree people should be able to make cartoons of whatever they want?

 

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Originally posted by ops154 ops154 wrote:

Originally posted by Angeldesire Angeldesire wrote:

"If you believe in freedom of speech, ...you should believe it for those views you don't like."

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So does this mean you agree people should be able to make cartoons of whatever they want?

 

NO !

nobody has the right to insult islam !

according to me, freedom of speech ends where religion begins

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Angel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 May 2006 at 8:06am
Originally posted by salman salman wrote:

Originally posted by ops154 ops154 wrote:

Originally posted by Angeldesire Angeldesire wrote:

"If you believe in freedom of speech, ...you should believe it for those views you don't like."

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So does this mean you agree people should be able to make cartoons of whatever they want?

 

NO !

nobody has the right to insult islam !

according to me, freedom of speech ends where religion begins

well there you go

anyway, how can you insult islam or any other religion for that matter?

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