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    Posted: 27 April 2006 at 8:02am

from todays Star:

http://www.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2006/4/27/nat ion/1 4074076&sec=nation

"Muslims who skip Friday prayers can be punished

KOTA BARU: Skipping Friday prayers is a major sin for Muslims and it is punishable under the state’s Syariah laws, said Kelantan Bar Committee chairman Datuk Wan Harun Shukri Noordin. 

Therefore, Muslims in the state must remember that Friday prayers are compulsory, otherwise they can be jailed or fined by the religious authorities, he said yesterday. 

He was commenting on a recent case in which a Muslim man was fined by the Syariah Court here for not attending the weekly prayers.  

Wan Harun said Syariah laws may differ slightly between the various states and their religious councils, but skipping Friday prayers was a clear offence in Kelantan and this rule applied to all Muslims working or residing in the state. 

State Local Government Committee chairman Takiyuddin Hassan said all states had similar legislation stating that it was an offence not to attend Friday prayers, but in Kelantan, the enforcement was more orderly. 

That was the reason why the man was hauled to court for not going to the mosque on a Friday, he said."  



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Bismillah,

Muslim men, fred.

This seems to be in Malaysia.  Laws in different countries are very interesting to me.  What do you guys think?  Would you like to see sharia implemented in this way in Canada or US?

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herjihad - it is malaysia, i should have specified this.  i am actually in scotland, so it will be up to canadians and americans to decide what they want.  i would utterly oppose any hint of sharia law being implemented in any way here
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For more details, and to satisfy my own curiosity, I clicked on the link but the story wouldn’t load.

 

I would guess that this punishment for not attending Friday prayers is coming from the Wahhabist, which is to say, “puritanical” strain, or sect, of Islam (with its Saudi-modeled mutawah, or religious police, and all that).  At any rate, this reminds me of those Christian “Puritan” colonialists (of America) who made church attendance mandatory, and, for that matter, of John Calvin’s theocratic Geneva, which apparently and at times did the same thing.  Extraordinary, what was historically done with this:

 

And the lord said unto the servant, Go out into the highways and hedges, and compel them to come in, that my house may be filled. [bold emphasis mine]” (Luke 14:23)

 

 

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herjihad wote:

"This seems to be in Malaysia."

herjihad, it is only happening in the State of Kelantan in Malaysia, where the State Government is formed by a Malaysian Islamic Party.

There is no compulsion in the other states of Malaysia.

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And the lord said unto the servant, Go out into the highways and hedges, and compel them to come in, that my house may be filled. [bold emphasis mine]” (Luke 14:23)

 

Serv, What a great and bold emphasis!   Thanks for above and I agree with your bold emphasis. Do I have your permission to quote above elsewhere?

 

 

 

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Cheers, BMZ,

“There is no compulsion in the other states of Malaysia.”

 

“… Do I have your [Servetus's] permission to quote above elsewhere?”

Permission granted, of course, but please do be advised that St. Luke’s Gospel has been in the public domain for roughly 2000 years and I didn’t get permission from anyone before I quoted it.  That said, I am not joking when I say that extraordinary things were historically done, or implemented, with this quote in mind, and one need only Google search, e.g., “St. Augustine,” “City of God,” and “compel them to come in” for proof of that.

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