How is Jesus Both God and Human?

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 AhmadJoyia wrote:

 DavidC wrote:

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Christians believe Jesus was 100% man and 100% God =(200%). 

We are not denying the 100% that is reality, but there is also knowledge 
that can only be passed along through paradox, parable and symbolism. 

DavidC

This christian belief is based on conjecture only and that too, derived through the books of unknown authors which were selectively chosen based upon the recommendations of concil of humans gathered almost 5 centuries after Jesus; merely a guess work. The total argument usually given in support of this kind of belief is by asking the question that; is it not possible that since God is all powerfull, in his infinite capacity, he can come to earth in a human form? This is inherrantly a flawed reasoning as one can ask a question on similar basis that can God make such a load heavy that he himself can't lift it? Any answer to this question would be selfcontradicting. This type of reasoning works only for the ignorant people who would put their beliefs on conjectural mysteries. It is for this very reason that quran ask them to leave the conjecture and follow the true path based on facts. However, since the time of Prophet Jesus, extremely little probability exists that anyone can figure out facts from their available resources. Hence, there is all the more logical reasons for them to study Islam and recognise God through it without any conjectures, paradoxes, parables and symbolism. 

i completely disagree....
conjecture? you mean...as in "guesswork" [webster's dictionary]
if so...than i ask you...is the enjeels also guess work? 
the same enjeels that muhammed spoke of in sura 48:29? and numerous other sura chapters that proclaim the authenticity of gospels - as well as seeking the counsel of the gospels? 
i ask then...where are these gospels that christians have somehow...someway...intentionally or ignorantly misplaced or lost or mishandled?  where? 
and based on 'recomendations from councils 5 centuries after christ' - i may also ad that the holy spirit...the same one that happend on pentacost was also in the presence of the formulation of GOd's word (the NT) during the formation of the current gospels...whether it be the nkjv or niv or what have you...
it is just funny...here is a muslim...that - while her prophet TELLS her to rely on the enjeels....ALSO with the same breath....proclaims the the very same gospels are not to be trusted...when her prophet nowhere claims that the enjeels are to be discredited...so what is it? can the gospels be trusted? or not? yes ? or no? if yes...why isnt there a muslim enjeel accepted all throughout the ummah as truly inspired word of god...
and if no...you are simply arguing against your own religious tenets 
so that very same question must be answered to the muslim who believes muhammed was a prophet of god...
he was told to recite....not write down....but recite what god had spoken to him....
but....
the quran ITSELF was not formulated until over 20 years AFTER muhammed died!!!
and beforehand.....the koran was based on pure, unadulterated....audio/verbal recitation!!!! not pen/ink/and paper medium ....which one is more reliable...imperfect human thought process of recitation...which is open to error...or written document?
so you answer me? is conjecture a very high possibility in the kuran as well...seeing as how their scriptures were not written in the form it is now right away - but 20+ years later...and not even by muhammed?  YES
tawhid