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Israfil
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Posted: 07 April 2005 at 6:56pm |
I have a challenge to many of you (including you brother
Rehmat since you are so animated in some of your post) regarding America. Many of you have staunchly engaged in discussing how bad America is can anyone Muslim, Non- Muslim see a rightous country in whose politics/spirituality reflects a just and Godly system? though i highly doubt none of you can find one I am really interested in some of your answers. If you find such a country please state why you find America in such a negative light spiritually and then state which country is rightous in nature and in its system of administrating justice. |
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ummziba
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This is a very interesting topic. I'm posting an article that I think is relevent to the topic, that addresses how some Muslims are losing their deen by trying to fit in with western society.
I don't believe that there is any such thing as a righteous country in the world today. Some believe living in non-Muslim countries can be a bad thing for Muslims. But perhaps living anywhere should be a good way for us to show by our good example that Islam is a perfect way of life. Of course, the problem is imperfect humans! Peace, ummziba. |
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Rehmat
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I have got many similar challenges before, which ended up by 'one brain' with dozen IDs - posting personal abuse against me. The 'PM' was the first sign of 'frustration' to see me on this forum too! However, to answer your question - Yes there is one country among the odd 57 Muslim nation-states, which could be called '80%' Islamic state and has several governmental and social function which are far greater beneficial to humanity than one can find in the US (or Israel!!!). For example, democracy, drug-control, women's rights, prostitution, murders (US: 11,734 in 2002 Vs Iran: 87), education, government transparancy, welfare, foreign policy based on morality (non-recognition of Israel)...so on and on. Now could you dig some good things in the US or Israel's 'governmental culture'?
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kim!
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Tibet? Especially a Tibet free from China. Kim... ps Did I understand the question correctly? If not, let me know. Edited by kim! |
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Colin
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Australia? Especially an Australia free from Australians. |
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Colin
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Rehmat wrote:
Aren't most of the murders in Iran done by the state?
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ZamanH
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Its not the people in the ME alone, who hate the U.S; Pakistanis hate it too, neither do the Venenzuelans don't dislike your country; and you should be convinced Indians don't love it and so do the Filipinos and the Koreans. Considering your claim that the govt. of your country is not the worst of all, can you also care to explain, why is it so much universally hated unlike, other democratic or undemocratic govts.??
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jalillah
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yes under american's law... they can change any law as they see fit regardless of consideration to other people own's freedom but america can represent their country in a matter of liberty so america holds that view of themselves but does america knows what they are representing? as to my vivid knowledge about humans wright should not be abused because some individual thinks they can...if I care about so much about the lives of others I would firstly practice what I preach in spite of the the world like your country represent... then why do you as individual people would or could not say to yourself enough is enough we will fight for peace not in the matter that would cost llives....like in the verse of the quran says for muslim to practise is as follow..when you see harm been done to others..change them with your hand,or tounge if you cannot do that then at least dont accept them in your heart and that is the least of a believer..
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