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Originally posted by fredifreeloader fredifreeloader wrote:

zul said - "In this context he says the "Rain" is a more appropriate translation." yes, of course he does.  i wonder why?   did anyone think it was rain before the nonsense of it was demonstrated?<!-- Message ''"" --><!-- Message ''"" -->



What do you mean by the "nonsense of it was demonstrated"
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote fredifreeloader Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 April 2006 at 8:44am
i meant "before they realised that the sky could not fall on the earth"
for i am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth - romans 1: 16
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Servetus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 April 2006 at 9:25am

(George)  “That's a great picture.  Where did you get it?” 

It is otherwise known as the historical “shield of the Trinity” and was posted, or linked, in this thread as well:

 

http://www.islamicity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4518& ;PN=1&TPN=4

 

 

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I was surfing the web on the Gospel of Judas and came upon the National Geographical Societies website.  There is a ton of information on this site including the ability to view the text in English and Coptic.  Now, the Gospel of Judas was written 150 years after Judas Iscariot lived.  Therefore, falling under the same theory most Muslims hold about the questionability of the Gospels.....I would say this is definitely on that track.

http://www9.nationalgeographic.com/lostgospel/index.html

The timeline is very interesting, showing when Gospels were written and chosen.

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I want to challenge anyone, who can take out any scientific contradictions in the Quraan. This challenge is especially for the "Freeloader" for his arrogance.

There aren't ANY contradictions in the Quraan, except from mistranslation, misqoutation-quoting out of context, misunderstanding and not analyzing the Quraan as a whole, as it completes it's topics not in one go, but in several different chapters,e.g. some mentioned in chapter 10, the continuaTION MIGHT BE IN CHAPTER 39.
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And this challenge is not to rebel against the christians or to incite hatred, but to clear the misconceptions.
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There are more than 20 scientific mistakes in the bible which I will discuss. The purpose for this is not to hurt the christians' feeling or to incite hatred. But to tell the christians that these scientific errors cannot be attributed to God. God knows the character of every human being. Only He is to judge who is a good Christian or a Jew or a Muslim in respect with their degree of understanding.

Errors in the Bible:
Error #1: Astronomy-the creation of the Universe
In Genises, chapter 1, it says that God created the heavens and the earth in six days and talks about the evening and the morning, referring to a 24-hour day. Today science tell us that a universe cannot be created in six days, each days having 24 hours. The Quran too speaks about six "Ayaam", which can mean a very long period or a 24 hour day. Scientists can agree that a universe tcan be created in very long periods, six very long periods.
In Genises Chapter 1 Verse 3-5, it says life was created on the first day. In the smame chapter, verse 14-19 the source of light, the sun, moon and stars were created on the fourth day. How can the 'cause of light' come in existence before the light born on the first day?
Genises verse 9-13, it says Earth was created in the third day. How can you have the "night and day" before the creation of the Earth. The night and day depends on the rotation of the Earth.
Genises Chapter 1, verse 14-19 says that the Sun and the moon was created on the fourth day. Today science tells us that Earth is part of the parent body...the sun. Earth cannot become in existence before the Sun.(the earth created in the 3rd day, and the sun and the moon on the 4th.)
Genesis chapter 1, verse 11-13, it says that the vegetation was created on the third day. How can the vegetation come into existence without sunlight, and how can they survive without sunlight.

There are more errors regarding the creation of the Earth but if you watch Dr Zakir Naik's videos debating with Dr. William Campbell, it will save my precious time from typing. I'll give you the links:

http://www.islamicity.com/m/mediadisplay.asp?ref=3111&t=
http://www.islamicity.com/m/mediadisplay.asp?ref=3112&t=
http://www.islamicity.com/m/mediadisplay.asp?ref=3777&t=
http://www.islamicity.com/m/mediadisplay.asp?ref=3778&t=

these links contain the total debate "Quran and Bible in the light of science" It has 4 clips, so watch them.
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Sorry somethings wrong with adding the links-- just go to the website www.irf.net. And then to it's video gallery. "Quran and Bible in the light of science"
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