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dude289
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As a student I have always been some what of a skeptic, but have always been interested in what religon has to say about The Theory of Evolution. I don't mean to stir controversy but I would just like a few opions on What followers of Ilsam believe. Evolution Fact or Fiction?
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ak_m_f
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In your question, if 'evolution' implies that man is actually an evolved form of a certain other creature, then Islam does not affirm such a standpoint. According to the Qur'an, Adam (pbuh) - the first man - was a direct creation of God, as a man. The Qur'an does not support that Adam evolved from another species.
However, it may be of some interest to note that in Al-Sajadah 32: 7 - 9, the Qur'an has referred to three different stages involved in the creation of man in such words that a slightly varied version of 'evolution' may be derived from it. The Qur'an says: He, Who perfected everything that He created - He started the creation of man from clay then he inculcated in him [i.e. man] the potential to reproduce through a drop of humble fluid then He embellished and fashioned him in due proportion; and breathed into him of His spirit and [thereby] developed in you [the abilities of] listening, vision and feeling. The above verses clearly tell us that in the beginning man was created from clay. The words 'creation from clay', obviously, do not necessitate that God created an effigy of man from clay and then gave life to it. It may, as we know, imply that in the beginning man came into existence out of the earth [the mud or the clay etc. of the earth]. In other words, God inculcated in earth - mixed with water - the potential to produce life. Over centuries or even millennia, the life-bearing potential of the earth materialized and a species quite similar to, yet somewhat different from man was born[1]. This was the first stage in the creation of man, as is evidenced by the words: "He started the creation of man from clay". In the second stage, the potential of reproducing life - of bearing offspring - through sexual contact between the male and the female genders was inculcated in this species. This stage is mentioned in the words: "then he inculcated in him the potential to reproduce through a drop of humble fluid". In the third stage, the species was physically fashioned into proportion and with that God also breathed into it of His spirit, which developed in it the abilities of listening, vision and feeling[2]. The words: "then He embellished and fashioned him in due proportion; and breathed into him of His spirit and [thereby] developed in you [the abilities of] listening, vision and feeling", point to this final stage in the development of the human species. It may be interpreted from the above explanation that it was only the first pair of near-humans - i.e. Adam and Eve - who went through the three stages explained above. That is Adam's (and Eve's) creation was initiated from clay - that is they were produced through the life-generation potential inculcated in the earth. Later on, the potential of reproduction through sexual contact was inculcated in Adam (and Eve). In the third stage, Adam (as well as Eve) was physically fashioned into due proportion and God breathed into them of His spirit and thereby developed the higher sapiential abilities in them. In view of the information provided by the Qur'an and the human knowledge that has developed over time, one may ascribe to any explanation that seems correct to him. However, if the latter theory is accepted to be correct, it also helps explain the existence of the slightly different fossil bones. It seems that these bones are of the near-humans that, in contrast to Adam and Eve and their subsequent generations, were not physically fashioned into proportion or inculcated with the advanced human faculties and which became extinct over time. However, contrary to the above interpretation, another theory that may be developed on the basis of the information given in the referred verses may be as follows[3]: Man's creation, in the first stage, was initiated by the production of a like species from the earth. In this stage, a number of near-human pairs - male and female - were produced directly from the earth. In the second stage, the near-human pairs were inculcated with the ability of reproducing life through sexual interaction between the male and the female gender of the species. In the third stage, one of the directly produced pairs (as in the first stage)[4] - i.e. Adam and Eve - were physically fashioned into due proportion and were inculcated with the advanced human abilities. It was at this stage that Adam and Eve became complete humans. Over subsequent centuries, the other directly produced pairs (in the first stage) and their offspring became extinct. The only pair that survived, through its offspring was that of Adam and Eve. The whole human race that populates the planet is the offspring of the one directly produced pair, which was physically fashioned into due proportion and inculcated with the advanced human faculties. In view of the information provided by the Qur'an and the human knowledge that has developed over time, one may ascribe to any explanation that seems correct to him. However, if the latter theory is accepted to be correct, it also helps explain the existence of the slightly different fossil bones. It seems that these bones are of the near-humans that, in contrast to Adam and Eve and their subsequent generations, were not physically fashioned into proportion or inculcated with the advanced human faculties and which became extinct over time. It should be stressed here that the above is a development of a somewhat detailed scenario, on the basis of some vague indications of the Qur'an and the general knowledge that has become available to man. The scenario may or may not be completely accurate. 26th March 2000 ------------------------------------------------------------ -------------------- [1] The last part of the referred verses clearly informs us that it was at a later stage that the species was physically fashioned into proportion and inculcated with advanced human abilities. [2] It may be noted that it was not merely the faculties of 'hearing' and 'sight', which, like other living things, the species seems to have possessed before this stage as well. On the contrary, at this stage the abilities inculcated in man were that of 'listening', 'vision' and 'feelings', which is a stage ahead of mere 'hearing' and 'sight' and is probably possessed, at such an advanced level, only by man. [3] The theory is primarily developed by my teacher Javed Ahmed Ghamidi. [4] As the Qur'an at another place (Aal Imraan 3: 59) tells us that Adam was directly produced from clay (earth) and was not born to a father and a mother. It should be stressed here that the above is a development of a somewhat detailed scenario, on the basis of interperation of the Qur'an and the general knowledge that has become available to man. The scenario may or may not be completely accurate. http://www.understanding-islam.com/related/text.asp?type=que stion&qid=255 Edited by ak_m_f |
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salman
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brother ak, i am sorry to say but you are fabricating the meanings of the Qur'an. there was no such evolution as you think about it in surah sajdah. Allah created Prophet Adam (peace be upon him) directly from clay without any process of evolution. this is clear from the fact that Islam says that before Prophet Adam was sent on earth, he was in paradise. how then can you say hat it was process of evolution from mud on earth. Allah ordered the angels to bring different colours of clay from earth. at that, the angels went to earth, but the earth started to cry saying to angels that there will be bloodshed on earth if humans were created. at this the angels told the earth that it is an order from Allah, and then the angels took different colours and types of clay from different parts of earth. hence, we now have different colours of people on earth, some are white, some black and some light brown like indians. as soon as Allah created Adam from clay and breathed into him soul, Allah then ordered the angels to prostrate to adam, but among them was a jinn called iblis who did not obey Allah and so Allah cursed him forever and now iblis is a shaytan (satan). Allah then made Prophet Adam to enter paradise. Allah ordered Prophet Adam not eat the fruits of one of the trees in paradise. there was something special about that tree. but shaytan (satan) whispered bad thoughts to Prophet Adam and Prophet Adam ate the fruits of that tree. so Allah got angry on Prophet Adam and sent him on earth and Allah told Prophet Adam that here you and your offsprings will live and die and then you all will be resurrected on the Day of Judgement and then on the account of their faith in Allah and deeds Allah will make them enter either paradise or hell. so there is no such thing as evolution. some scientists have just put forward their theories. these are just 'theories' of evolution. there is nothing called as 'proofs' of evolution. we as muslims should not believe in such theories of evolution. rather, we should believe on what Allah says in the Qur'an.
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Dude289, this section is only for intro. You introduce yourself here THAN your weighty post go somewhere else. Anyway evolution is not as sweet as many people suggest. |
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Dude289: Please introduce yourself here, then look for the appropriate area to post your topic. This topic is being moved. |
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We are all evolving, some faster than th other. My father and mother were shorter than me by at least 3 cm, how did I gain the extra height when by right as far as genetic is concern I should be their exact copy. But when people talk about the evolution they do it for winning the slanging match or just to defend the dogma. Think of yoursel how the apes evolve into human. Don't ask anyone dude you are on your own. No book no tv no teacher. Is it possible and how? Why the apes are still here. How did they change from walking on four to walk on two. How about the speech, the emotion, the ability to sense the time etc etc. But that was already yesterday. How about before yesterday, before the apes. It is not matter of accepting or rejecting, but how do you chew it. Some of the evolutionist are actually defending the evolution as matter of dogma, "Evolution is right and everything else are wrong". If you come across any evolutionist like this, you need God help more than any other time. |
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Mishmish
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Assalamu Alaikum Brother Salman: Where did you get this story about the earth crying? |
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salman
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assalamualaikum sister mishmish i have one book called as 'Stories of the Prophets' by Ibn Kathir. in that book i read the first story which is of Prophet Adam (peace be upon him). in that i read. |
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