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 Posted: 03 January 2020 at 8:34am |
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asep garutea wrote:
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...Why was there no other references outside any non islamic
references and even in the bible nothing at all just a fairy tale imagination
of your false cult leader about Dajjal who wanted impress his uneducated
followers with his lies and deceptions... |
What?... you want us to educate you about your own bible??... you don't even know your own bible and you come on here 'slandering' the Qur'an?
In Christianity, Dajjal is known as the Anti-christ. He is mentioned in the bible, sometimes by name and sometimes by attributes. For example:
1 John 2:18 Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour.
2 Thessalonians 2:4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God.
Revelation 13:13-18 He performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men.
You are typical of all Islamophobes... they don't know what they are talking about... They talk out of their ignorance
P.S. I am studying the Bible and the Taurah at the moment (as well as the Qur'an), and I can firmly say: Alhamdulillah (Praise to Allah) for the Qur'an... it is really in a higher league of its own... The Qur'an is the absolute TRUTH!
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1 John 2:22 So who is
lying here? It’s the person who denies that Jesus is the Divine Christ, that’s
who. This is what makes an
antichrist: denying the Father, denying the Son. No one who denies the Son has
any part with the Father, but affirming the Son is an embrace of
the Father as well.
Qur’an 19:88
Those who say: ‘The Lord of Mercy has begotten a son,’
preach a monstrous falsehood, at which the very heavens might crack, the earth
break asunder, and the mountains crumble to dust. That they should ascribe a
son to the Merciful, when it does not become the Lord of Mercy to beget one!
Qur’an 23:91
Say: ‘How then can you be so bewitched?’We have revealed to
them the truth, but they are liars all.Never has God begotten a son, nor is
there any other god besides Him. Were this otherwise, each god would govern his
own creation, each holding himself above the other. Exalted be God above their
falsehoods!
Qur'an 72:3
He (exalted be the glory of our Lord!) has taken no wife,
nor has He begotten any children. The Blaspheming One among us has uttered a
wanton falsehood against God, although we had supposed no man or jinee could tell
of Him what is untrue.
This was exactly what Muhammad did to do some modifications to his so called words
of Allah.
Allah can not be a Father (In bible denying the Father is
the Antichrist)
Allah can not have a Son (In the bible denying the Son is
the Antichrist)
In islam according to Muhammad Jesus,Isa is not the Son
Allah (Again denying that Jesus is not the Son God is the real Antichrist so
what does that tell you your false prophet
Muhammad created an Antichrist Empire who make its their mission to
destroy Christ and all His followers. But Allah had three daughters! but Allah's wife can not have a Son its not permitted by Muhammad. Islamaphobia is new islamic invention which Muslims discovered lately to gain simpathy by the non believers which meaes in the exact terms fear! for Muslims! fear,fear,fear,fear!. Okay is that enough I do not fear Muslims get a grip life. What must Jibrill be called then a Cynophob cause he did not visit Muhmmad cause there was puppy under the bed so then Jibrill run away he was scared of the puppy. Muhmmad was also a cynophod cause he said that Muslims must kill all black dogs cause there is a devil in every black doggie.
Dajjal is not in Christianity a hairy hen toed one eyed creature like Muhammad's description of his emulation of a antichrist or false messiah what ever muslim called it.
He Prophet further said that Dajjal would have a prominent
forehead and a wide neck. Short in height, but he would be very powerful, even
with a hunch in his back. He would walk with his feet apart, not like normal
men. Dajjal would have long and curly hair, so thick that his locks would look
like snakes hanging from his head, lots of them, coiled together.
Dajjal would be sterile, he would not have any children. The
Holy Prophet’s description of Dajjal clearly states that Dajjal would be a man,
not a woman, not a theory, not a nation, or any other sort of propaganda. He
would be a man and he would be alive. 2 Thessalonians 2:4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God.
This is the exact modus operandi that islam is following to exalt themselfs over everthing that is called God or is worship like islam there no God but Allah and Muhammad was his only prophet, islam will dominate the world, impliment sharia law in non muslim countries. |
(1 John 2:22 So who is lying here? It’s the person who denies that Jesus is the Divine Christ, that’s who. This is what makes an antichrist: denying the Father, denying the Son. No one who denies the Son has any part with the Father, but affirming the Son is an embrace of the Father as well.)
Answer: I want to ask you, is Jesus a human child or God's child ?
(Qur’an 19:88 Those who say: ‘The Lord of Mercy has begotten a son,’ preach a monstrous falsehood, at which the very heavens might crack, the earth break asunder, and the mountains crumble to dust. That they should ascribe a son to the Merciful, when it does not become the Lord of Mercy to beget one!)
Answer: Can you imagine if God has a son ? And He is a father ? Automatically the position of Maria's parents is higher than God, because they are God's parents-in-law. thus God's degree in human eyes will be weak.
(Qur’an 23:91 Say: ‘How then can you be so bewitched?’We have revealed to them the truth, but they are liars all.Never has God begotten a son, nor is there any other god besides Him. Were this otherwise, each god would govern his own creation, each holding himself above the other. Exalted be God above their falsehoods!)
Answer: Yes, if God more than one, They will fight for power. That verse can only be accepted by people who are smart in thinking.
(Qur'an 72:3
He (exalted be the glory of our Lord!) has taken no wife, nor has He begotten any children. The Blaspheming One among us has uttered a wanton falsehood against God, although we had supposed no man or jinee could tell of Him what is untrue.)
(This was exactly what Muhammad did to do some modifications to his so called words of Allah.)
Answer: That's just your prejudice because you don't like the Prophet Muhammad as the Messenger of Allah.
(Allah can not be a Father (In bible denying the Father is the Antichrist)
(Allah can not have a Son (In the bible denying the Son is the Antichrist))
Answer: Dajjal will claim that he is God, so people who are religious on this earth will become his enemies.
(In islam according to Muhammad Jesus,Isa is not the Son Allah (Again denying that Jesus is not the Son God is the real Antichrist so what does that tell you your false prophet Muhammad created an Antichrist Empire who make its their mission to destroy Christ and all His followers.)
Answer: I want to ask you, who will kill Dajjal ?
(But Allah had three daughters! but Allah's wife can not have a Son its not permitted by Muhammad.)
Answer: The acknowledgment that God had three children is derived from beliefs in ancient Babylonian times, namely the worshipers of the sun and consider that God a lot.
(Islamaphobia is new islamic invention which Muslims discovered lately to gain simpathy by the non believers which meaes in the exact terms fear! for Muslims! fear,fear,fear,fear!.)
Answer: I can read through the words that you write that your heart is upset. Be careful that the devil will easily tempt the hearts of people who are upset or angry. Whoever the person is, don't be afraid of Muslims (Islamaphobia), but fear to the God of Muslims who are watching us wherever we are.
(Okay is that enough I do not fear Muslims get a grip life.)
Answer: That means you don't admit the messengers of God, whereas they have a grip life.
(What must Jibrill be called then a Cynophob cause he did not visit Muhmmad cause there was puppy under the bed so then Jibrill run away he was scared of the puppy.)
Answer: Gabriel is not afraid of anyone except to Allah.
(Muhmmad was also a cynophod cause he said that Muslims must kill all black dogs cause there is a devil in every black doggie.)
Answer: The Prophet Muhammad did not dare to kill all creatures created by Allah unless there was an order from Allah.
(Dajjal is not in Christianity a hairy hen toed one eyed creature like Muhammad's description of his emulation of a antichrist or false messiah what ever muslim called it.)
(He Prophet further said that Dajjal would have a prominent forehead and a wide neck. Short in height, but he would be very powerful, even with a hunch in his back. He would walk with his feet apart, not like normal men. Dajjal would have long and curly hair, so thick that his locks would look like snakes hanging from his head, lots of them, coiled together.)
(Dajjal would be sterile, he would not have any children. The Holy Prophet’s description of Dajjal clearly states that Dajjal would be a man, not a woman, not a theory, not a nation, or any other sort of propaganda. He would be a man and he would be alive.)
Answer: Whatever the characteristics of Dajjal is not the main problem, but every person who doesn't admit him as God, will be killed. And the first people to be approached and to be killed are Muslims.
(2 Thessalonians 2:4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God.)
Answer: Yes he will claim as God.
(This is the exact modus operandi that islam is following to exalt themselfs over everthing that is called God or is worship like islam there no God but Allah and Muhammad was his only prophet, islam will dominate the world, impliment sharia law in non muslim countries.)
Answer: You are looking for loopholes to drop the teachings of Tawheed. For Muslims, there is no God except Allah. Muslims do not agree with Dajjal's claim, instead Muslims acknowledge that Dajjal is also Allah's creation.
Muslims invite all people in countries because they want to save humans, especially in the hereafter. Even if it is rejected, it will not be a problem for Muslims because they have conveyed Allah's commands.
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You can totally not visualise that the Dajjal was a fabrcation fairy tale of Muhammad as same as the Madhi supposed to be a descendant Muhammad which is also fabricated lie of Muhammad who wanted emulate the real Messiah to moraly impressed his believers
This last is the completely Moslemized version of the saga:
the intermediate stage being defined by the idea that the rule of the Mahdi
will be overthrown by Dajjal, in order that Anti-christ may in turn be
overthrown by Jesus at his second coming. The killing of the False Messiah will traumatize the
Christians and Jews who had followed him, for it will finally reveal to them
that he was not what he had claimed to be. The Prophet of Islam, may the mercy
and blessings of God be upon him, said:
"The son of Mary will soon descend among you and will
judge justly (according to the Law of God [26]): he will break the cross and
kill the pig... " (Saheeh Al-Bukhari)
The breaking of the cross may be figurative or literal: the
destruction of erected idols in churches and tearing down of crosses from their
steeples, as well as forbidding the use of personal crosses as symbols of
religion; or the destruction of the myth that he was executed by the Romans on
a cross at the instigation of the Jews. Likewise, the killing of the pigs may
be both literal and figurative: literally conducting a campaign to kill all
pigs so the consumption of their meat becomes impossible, allowing them to be
killed, or simply re-imposing the ban God made since time immemorial on
eating their flesh, effectively forcing pig farmers to get rid of their stock
by culling. In effect, two of the mainstays of widespread Christian practice
will be removed, indicating that the religion as taught by modern Christians
would henceforth be defunct, and marking a return to the religion as originally
intended. Muslims must have actually forgot Jesus will come to kill all the camels also they also must be killed.
Jesus himself will not only rule and judge by the Muslim
Shariah, he will complete all the Islamic pillars. The Prophet of Islam said:
"By him in Whose hand my life is, the son of Mary will
certainly invoke the name of God for Hajj or Umrah or both in the valley of
Rauha (a valley near Medina)." (Saheeh Muslim) This one the biggest lie in history I have ever heard that Jesus will die, Muslims believed Jesus never died on the cross now when he came back he will die what a lie what is wrong with Allah will he not save Jesus and take him up to heaven and they say in boast we kill Isa but they kill him not.
Then, forty years after his second coming, he will die, and
the Muslims will perform the funeral prayer for him. And this moment is the
moment God is referring to in the Quranic verse:
"And there is none of the People of the Book who must
believe in him before his death... " (Quran 4:159) |
(Jesus himself will not only rule and judge by the Muslim Shariah, he will complete all the Islamic pillars.)
Answer: Yes, that is all the teachings of Tawheed of the Prophets which have been perfected so that it is not only for one tribes but for all humans.
(This one the biggest lie in history I have ever heard that Jesus will die, Muslims believed Jesus never died on the cross now when he came back he will die what a lie what is wrong with Allah will he not save Jesus and take him up to heaven and they say in boast we kill Isa but they kill him not.)
Answer: If we think logically why Christians admit that Jesus was killed and tortured at the cross, while Muslims are defending Jesus that he was not tortured at the cross. So which one respects Jesus, and which one insults Jesus?
(Then, forty years after his second coming, he will die, and the Muslims will perform the funeral prayer for him.)
Answer: Yes, because Jesus was a devout and surrender (the meaning of Islam word) only to Allah.
("And there is none of the People of the Book who must believe in him before his death... " (Quran 4:159))
Answer: That verse explains that the Jesus will come down to earth and will straighten out what the scribes doubted about the murder of the Jesus (Qoran 4: 157), and at that time the scribes will recognize that Jesus is a man who is a messenger of Allah. And they will believe in Allah following Jesus (Qoran 4: 159)
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Jesus himself will not only rule and judge by the Muslim Shariah, he will complete all the Islamic pillars
So he will then ordained all the pagan rituals and customs that Muhammad copied from pagans as lawfull to practise in order get into Muhammad's paridise with 72 virgins.
Muslims follow five basic pillars that are essential to
their faith. These include:
Shahada: to declare one’s faith in God and belief in
Muhammad
Salat: to pray five times a day (at dawn, noon, afternoon,
sunset, and evening)
Zakat: to give to those in need
Sawm: to fast during Ramadan
Hajj: to make a pilgrimage to Mecca at least once during a
person’s lifetime if the person is able. Ther must be something seriously wrong: Why did Jesus never told his Apostles about the five pillars of Islam? And left them all in the dark that was so unfair. |
(Jesus himself will not only rule and judge by the Muslim Shariah, he will complete all the Islamic pillars)
Answer: Yes he will do it. Because he will follow the rules of God that apply at the end of time.
(So he will then ordained all the pagan rituals and customs that Muhammad copied from pagans as lawfull to practise in order get into Muhammad's paridise with 72 virgins.)
Answer: Prophet Muhammad didn't worship idols but he worshiped Allah who created all humans and everything in the universe.
(Ther must be something seriously wrong: Why did Jesus never told his Apostles about the five pillars of Islam? And left them all in the dark that was so unfair.)
Answer: Yes, Jesus will never tell the Apostles because before he was born there were Apostles. This proves that Jesus was a human.
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The islamic pillars are already compleet so what is the issue to complete all the isalmic pillars.
I said Muhammad used the old pagan rituals that he made lawfull for muslims to practise.
Who was the Apostles before Jesus there was no Apostles before Jesus and he was only one who could ordained Apostles not like Muhammad who apointed himself as Allah's false Apostle.
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(The islamic pillars are already compleet so what is the issue to complete all the isalmic pillars.)
Answer: All the rules and commands of Allah have been perfect since the existence of the Qur'an and the last Prophet (Muhammad), and it will apply until the end.
(I said Muhammad used the old pagan rituals that he made lawfull for muslims to practise.)
Answer: The ritual performed by the Prophet Muhammad was also carried out by the Prophets before.
Please consider the following verses !
Psalm 138:2 "I want to bow down to Your holy temple and praise Your name, because of Your love and because of Your faithfulness; for You make Your name and Your promise above all things."
Does that verse mean that the Prophet David worshiped the Kaaba ? Not! he worshiped Allah, although facing the Kaaba.
Ezekiel 44: 4. "Then He carried me through the north gate to the front of the temple; I see, truly, God's house full of God's glory, so I bow down."
Does that verse mean that the prophet Ezekiel worshiped the Temple? Not! he worshiped Allah, although facing the Qibla.
Mark 14:33 "And He took Peter, James and John with him. He was very scared and terrified, Mark 14:34 then he said to them: "My heart is very sad, as if I want to die. Stay here and keep watch." Mark 14:35 "He advanced a little, prostrate down on the ground and prayed that, if possible, that moment then from him."
THESE VERSES PROVE THAT JESUS ALSO DOING SALAH.
Do you also do it like Jesus?
Look carefully at the following verse.
Matthew 15: 8 "This nation glorifies Me (Allah) with its lips, even though its heart is far from Me. Matthew 15: 9 "It is useless to worship Me, while the teachings they teach are human commands."
CAN YOU TAKE THE TRUE MEANING FROM THAT VERSES ?
(Who was the Apostles before Jesus there was no Apostles before Jesus and he was only one who could ordained Apostles not like Muhammad who apointed himself as Allah's false Apostle.)
Answer: The Apostles before Jesus included: Noah, Ibrahim, Moses, and others.
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There was no Kabaa in Ezekiel's time and Dawid's time you changed the words of the bible so it can fits the Quran Not even Abrahaham or Ismail build the Kabaa like some Muslims who changed the history to ligalise islam. Psalm 138:2 "I want to bow down to Your holy temple and praise Your name, because of Your love and because of Your faithfulness; for You make Your name and Your promise above all things."
Does that verse mean that the Prophet David worshiped the Kaaba ? Not! he worshiped Allah, although facing the Kaaba.
Dawid did not worship the Allah of Muhammad.
Ezekiel 44: 4. "Then He carried me through the north gate to the front of the temple; I see, truly, God's house full of God's glory, so I bow down."
Does that verse mean that the prophet Ezekiel worshiped the Temple? Not! he worshiped Allah, although facing the Qibla.( Kabaa) Then the Jews must also be called Muslsims sorry why did Muhammad expelled all the Jews from Arabia cause they did not worship the same God as the muslims did.
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(There was no Kabaa in Ezekiel's time and Dawid's time you changed the words of the bible so it can fits the Quran.)
Answer: The first form of Kabaa was not like now, but all the Prophets knew that the Kabaa had existed since the Prophet Adam.
I didn't change the words of the bible, you'd better ask to the Scribes why they change it.
(Not even Abrahaham or Ismail build the Kabaa like some Muslims who changed the history to ligalise islam.)
Answer: Yes, the Prophet Ibrahim and his son (Ismail) had rebuilt the Kabaa so that it looked like now.
(Dawid did not worship the Allah of Muhammad.)
Answer: So who is his God ? Jesus ? No.., at that time Jesus wasn't born.
(Then the Jews must also be called Muslsims sorry why did Muhammad expelled all the Jews from Arabia cause they did not worship the same God as the muslims did.)
Answer: The word of Muslims are from Arabic which means to surrender to one God and He is not similar to His creatures. So anyone who surrenders to one God and believes that God is not similar to His creatures means Muslims (in Arabic), it does not mean the language is the same as the language of the Prophets before the Prophet Muhammad.
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Posted: 03 January 2020 at 12:35pm |
asep garutea wrote:
Peace maker wrote:
asep garutea wrote:
Peace maker wrote:
asep garutea wrote:
Peace maker wrote:
asep garutea wrote:
Peace maker wrote:
asep garutea wrote:
Peace maker wrote:
MIAW wrote:
Peace maker wrote:
...Why was there no other references outside any non islamic
references and even in the bible nothing at all just a fairy tale imagination
of your false cult leader about Dajjal who wanted impress his uneducated
followers with his lies and deceptions... |
What?... you want us to educate you about your own bible??... you don't even know your own bible and you come on here 'slandering' the Qur'an?
In Christianity, Dajjal is known as the Anti-christ. He is mentioned in the bible, sometimes by name and sometimes by attributes. For example:
1 John 2:18 Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour.
2 Thessalonians 2:4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God.
Revelation 13:13-18 He performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men.
You are typical of all Islamophobes... they don't know what they are talking about... They talk out of their ignorance
P.S. I am studying the Bible and the Taurah at the moment (as well as the Qur'an), and I can firmly say: Alhamdulillah (Praise to Allah) for the Qur'an... it is really in a higher league of its own... The Qur'an is the absolute TRUTH!
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1 John 2:22 So who is
lying here? It’s the person who denies that Jesus is the Divine Christ, that’s
who. This is what makes an
antichrist: denying the Father, denying the Son. No one who denies the Son has
any part with the Father, but affirming the Son is an embrace of
the Father as well.
Qur’an 19:88
Those who say: ‘The Lord of Mercy has begotten a son,’
preach a monstrous falsehood, at which the very heavens might crack, the earth
break asunder, and the mountains crumble to dust. That they should ascribe a
son to the Merciful, when it does not become the Lord of Mercy to beget one!
Qur’an 23:91
Say: ‘How then can you be so bewitched?’We have revealed to
them the truth, but they are liars all.Never has God begotten a son, nor is
there any other god besides Him. Were this otherwise, each god would govern his
own creation, each holding himself above the other. Exalted be God above their
falsehoods!
Qur'an 72:3
He (exalted be the glory of our Lord!) has taken no wife,
nor has He begotten any children. The Blaspheming One among us has uttered a
wanton falsehood against God, although we had supposed no man or jinee could tell
of Him what is untrue.
This was exactly what Muhammad did to do some modifications to his so called words
of Allah.
Allah can not be a Father (In bible denying the Father is
the Antichrist)
Allah can not have a Son (In the bible denying the Son is
the Antichrist)
In islam according to Muhammad Jesus,Isa is not the Son
Allah (Again denying that Jesus is not the Son God is the real Antichrist so
what does that tell you your false prophet
Muhammad created an Antichrist Empire who make its their mission to
destroy Christ and all His followers. But Allah had three daughters! but Allah's wife can not have a Son its not permitted by Muhammad. Islamaphobia is new islamic invention which Muslims discovered lately to gain simpathy by the non believers which meaes in the exact terms fear! for Muslims! fear,fear,fear,fear!. Okay is that enough I do not fear Muslims get a grip life. What must Jibrill be called then a Cynophob cause he did not visit Muhmmad cause there was puppy under the bed so then Jibrill run away he was scared of the puppy. Muhmmad was also a cynophod cause he said that Muslims must kill all black dogs cause there is a devil in every black doggie.
Dajjal is not in Christianity a hairy hen toed one eyed creature like Muhammad's description of his emulation of a antichrist or false messiah what ever muslim called it.
He Prophet further said that Dajjal would have a prominent
forehead and a wide neck. Short in height, but he would be very powerful, even
with a hunch in his back. He would walk with his feet apart, not like normal
men. Dajjal would have long and curly hair, so thick that his locks would look
like snakes hanging from his head, lots of them, coiled together.
Dajjal would be sterile, he would not have any children. The
Holy Prophet’s description of Dajjal clearly states that Dajjal would be a man,
not a woman, not a theory, not a nation, or any other sort of propaganda. He
would be a man and he would be alive. 2 Thessalonians 2:4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God.
This is the exact modus operandi that islam is following to exalt themselfs over everthing that is called God or is worship like islam there no God but Allah and Muhammad was his only prophet, islam will dominate the world, impliment sharia law in non muslim countries. |
(1 John 2:22 So who is lying here? It’s the person who denies that Jesus is the Divine Christ, that’s who. This is what makes an antichrist: denying the Father, denying the Son. No one who denies the Son has any part with the Father, but affirming the Son is an embrace of the Father as well.)
Answer: I want to ask you, is Jesus a human child or God's child ?
(Qur’an 19:88 Those who say: ‘The Lord of Mercy has begotten a son,’ preach a monstrous falsehood, at which the very heavens might crack, the earth break asunder, and the mountains crumble to dust. That they should ascribe a son to the Merciful, when it does not become the Lord of Mercy to beget one!)
Answer: Can you imagine if God has a son ? And He is a father ? Automatically the position of Maria's parents is higher than God, because they are God's parents-in-law. thus God's degree in human eyes will be weak.
(Qur’an 23:91 Say: ‘How then can you be so bewitched?’We have revealed to them the truth, but they are liars all.Never has God begotten a son, nor is there any other god besides Him. Were this otherwise, each god would govern his own creation, each holding himself above the other. Exalted be God above their falsehoods!)
Answer: Yes, if God more than one, They will fight for power. That verse can only be accepted by people who are smart in thinking.
(Qur'an 72:3
He (exalted be the glory of our Lord!) has taken no wife, nor has He begotten any children. The Blaspheming One among us has uttered a wanton falsehood against God, although we had supposed no man or jinee could tell of Him what is untrue.)
(This was exactly what Muhammad did to do some modifications to his so called words of Allah.)
Answer: That's just your prejudice because you don't like the Prophet Muhammad as the Messenger of Allah.
(Allah can not be a Father (In bible denying the Father is the Antichrist)
(Allah can not have a Son (In the bible denying the Son is the Antichrist))
Answer: Dajjal will claim that he is God, so people who are religious on this earth will become his enemies.
(In islam according to Muhammad Jesus,Isa is not the Son Allah (Again denying that Jesus is not the Son God is the real Antichrist so what does that tell you your false prophet Muhammad created an Antichrist Empire who make its their mission to destroy Christ and all His followers.)
Answer: I want to ask you, who will kill Dajjal ?
(But Allah had three daughters! but Allah's wife can not have a Son its not permitted by Muhammad.)
Answer: The acknowledgment that God had three children is derived from beliefs in ancient Babylonian times, namely the worshipers of the sun and consider that God a lot.
(Islamaphobia is new islamic invention which Muslims discovered lately to gain simpathy by the non believers which meaes in the exact terms fear! for Muslims! fear,fear,fear,fear!.)
Answer: I can read through the words that you write that your heart is upset. Be careful that the devil will easily tempt the hearts of people who are upset or angry. Whoever the person is, don't be afraid of Muslims (Islamaphobia), but fear to the God of Muslims who are watching us wherever we are.
(Okay is that enough I do not fear Muslims get a grip life.)
Answer: That means you don't admit the messengers of God, whereas they have a grip life.
(What must Jibrill be called then a Cynophob cause he did not visit Muhmmad cause there was puppy under the bed so then Jibrill run away he was scared of the puppy.)
Answer: Gabriel is not afraid of anyone except to Allah.
(Muhmmad was also a cynophod cause he said that Muslims must kill all black dogs cause there is a devil in every black doggie.)
Answer: The Prophet Muhammad did not dare to kill all creatures created by Allah unless there was an order from Allah.
(Dajjal is not in Christianity a hairy hen toed one eyed creature like Muhammad's description of his emulation of a antichrist or false messiah what ever muslim called it.)
(He Prophet further said that Dajjal would have a prominent forehead and a wide neck. Short in height, but he would be very powerful, even with a hunch in his back. He would walk with his feet apart, not like normal men. Dajjal would have long and curly hair, so thick that his locks would look like snakes hanging from his head, lots of them, coiled together.)
(Dajjal would be sterile, he would not have any children. The Holy Prophet’s description of Dajjal clearly states that Dajjal would be a man, not a woman, not a theory, not a nation, or any other sort of propaganda. He would be a man and he would be alive.)
Answer: Whatever the characteristics of Dajjal is not the main problem, but every person who doesn't admit him as God, will be killed. And the first people to be approached and to be killed are Muslims.
(2 Thessalonians 2:4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God.)
Answer: Yes he will claim as God.
(This is the exact modus operandi that islam is following to exalt themselfs over everthing that is called God or is worship like islam there no God but Allah and Muhammad was his only prophet, islam will dominate the world, impliment sharia law in non muslim countries.)
Answer: You are looking for loopholes to drop the teachings of Tawheed. For Muslims, there is no God except Allah. Muslims do not agree with Dajjal's claim, instead Muslims acknowledge that Dajjal is also Allah's creation.
Muslims invite all people in countries because they want to save humans, especially in the hereafter. Even if it is rejected, it will not be a problem for Muslims because they have conveyed Allah's commands.
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You can totally not visualise that the Dajjal was a fabrcation fairy tale of Muhammad as same as the Madhi supposed to be a descendant Muhammad which is also fabricated lie of Muhammad who wanted emulate the real Messiah to moraly impressed his believers
This last is the completely Moslemized version of the saga:
the intermediate stage being defined by the idea that the rule of the Mahdi
will be overthrown by Dajjal, in order that Anti-christ may in turn be
overthrown by Jesus at his second coming. The killing of the False Messiah will traumatize the
Christians and Jews who had followed him, for it will finally reveal to them
that he was not what he had claimed to be. The Prophet of Islam, may the mercy
and blessings of God be upon him, said:
"The son of Mary will soon descend among you and will
judge justly (according to the Law of God [26]): he will break the cross and
kill the pig... " (Saheeh Al-Bukhari)
The breaking of the cross may be figurative or literal: the
destruction of erected idols in churches and tearing down of crosses from their
steeples, as well as forbidding the use of personal crosses as symbols of
religion; or the destruction of the myth that he was executed by the Romans on
a cross at the instigation of the Jews. Likewise, the killing of the pigs may
be both literal and figurative: literally conducting a campaign to kill all
pigs so the consumption of their meat becomes impossible, allowing them to be
killed, or simply re-imposing the ban God made since time immemorial on
eating their flesh, effectively forcing pig farmers to get rid of their stock
by culling. In effect, two of the mainstays of widespread Christian practice
will be removed, indicating that the religion as taught by modern Christians
would henceforth be defunct, and marking a return to the religion as originally
intended. Muslims must have actually forgot Jesus will come to kill all the camels also they also must be killed.
Jesus himself will not only rule and judge by the Muslim
Shariah, he will complete all the Islamic pillars. The Prophet of Islam said:
"By him in Whose hand my life is, the son of Mary will
certainly invoke the name of God for Hajj or Umrah or both in the valley of
Rauha (a valley near Medina)." (Saheeh Muslim) This one the biggest lie in history I have ever heard that Jesus will die, Muslims believed Jesus never died on the cross now when he came back he will die what a lie what is wrong with Allah will he not save Jesus and take him up to heaven and they say in boast we kill Isa but they kill him not.
Then, forty years after his second coming, he will die, and
the Muslims will perform the funeral prayer for him. And this moment is the
moment God is referring to in the Quranic verse:
"And there is none of the People of the Book who must
believe in him before his death... " (Quran 4:159) |
(Jesus himself will not only rule and judge by the Muslim Shariah, he will complete all the Islamic pillars.)
Answer: Yes, that is all the teachings of Tawheed of the Prophets which have been perfected so that it is not only for one tribes but for all humans.
(This one the biggest lie in history I have ever heard that Jesus will die, Muslims believed Jesus never died on the cross now when he came back he will die what a lie what is wrong with Allah will he not save Jesus and take him up to heaven and they say in boast we kill Isa but they kill him not.)
Answer: If we think logically why Christians admit that Jesus was killed and tortured at the cross, while Muslims are defending Jesus that he was not tortured at the cross. So which one respects Jesus, and which one insults Jesus?
(Then, forty years after his second coming, he will die, and the Muslims will perform the funeral prayer for him.)
Answer: Yes, because Jesus was a devout and surrender (the meaning of Islam word) only to Allah.
("And there is none of the People of the Book who must believe in him before his death... " (Quran 4:159))
Answer: That verse explains that the Jesus will come down to earth and will straighten out what the scribes doubted about the murder of the Jesus (Qoran 4: 157), and at that time the scribes will recognize that Jesus is a man who is a messenger of Allah. And they will believe in Allah following Jesus (Qoran 4: 159)
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Jesus himself will not only rule and judge by the Muslim Shariah, he will complete all the Islamic pillars
So he will then ordained all the pagan rituals and customs that Muhammad copied from pagans as lawfull to practise in order get into Muhammad's paridise with 72 virgins.
Muslims follow five basic pillars that are essential to
their faith. These include:
Shahada: to declare one’s faith in God and belief in
Muhammad
Salat: to pray five times a day (at dawn, noon, afternoon,
sunset, and evening)
Zakat: to give to those in need
Sawm: to fast during Ramadan
Hajj: to make a pilgrimage to Mecca at least once during a
person’s lifetime if the person is able. Ther must be something seriously wrong: Why did Jesus never told his Apostles about the five pillars of Islam? And left them all in the dark that was so unfair. |
(Jesus himself will not only rule and judge by the Muslim Shariah, he will complete all the Islamic pillars)
Answer: Yes he will do it. Because he will follow the rules of God that apply at the end of time.
(So he will then ordained all the pagan rituals and customs that Muhammad copied from pagans as lawfull to practise in order get into Muhammad's paridise with 72 virgins.)
Answer: Prophet Muhammad didn't worship idols but he worshiped Allah who created all humans and everything in the universe.
(Ther must be something seriously wrong: Why did Jesus never told his Apostles about the five pillars of Islam? And left them all in the dark that was so unfair.)
Answer: Yes, Jesus will never tell the Apostles because before he was born there were Apostles. This proves that Jesus was a human.
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The islamic pillars are already compleet so what is the issue to complete all the isalmic pillars.
I said Muhammad used the old pagan rituals that he made lawfull for muslims to practise.
Who was the Apostles before Jesus there was no Apostles before Jesus and he was only one who could ordained Apostles not like Muhammad who apointed himself as Allah's false Apostle.
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(The islamic pillars are already compleet so what is the issue to complete all the isalmic pillars.)
Answer: All the rules and commands of Allah have been perfect since the existence of the Qur'an and the last Prophet (Muhammad), and it will apply until the end.
(I said Muhammad used the old pagan rituals that he made lawfull for muslims to practise.)
Answer: The ritual performed by the Prophet Muhammad was also carried out by the Prophets before.
Please consider the following verses !
Psalm 138:2 "I want to bow down to Your holy temple and praise Your name, because of Your love and because of Your faithfulness; for You make Your name and Your promise above all things."
Does that verse mean that the Prophet David worshiped the Kaaba ? Not! he worshiped Allah, although facing the Kaaba.
Ezekiel 44: 4. "Then He carried me through the north gate to the front of the temple; I see, truly, God's house full of God's glory, so I bow down."
Does that verse mean that the prophet Ezekiel worshiped the Temple? Not! he worshiped Allah, although facing the Qibla.
Mark 14:33 "And He took Peter, James and John with him. He was very scared and terrified, Mark 14:34 then he said to them: "My heart is very sad, as if I want to die. Stay here and keep watch." Mark 14:35 "He advanced a little, prostrate down on the ground and prayed that, if possible, that moment then from him."
THESE VERSES PROVE THAT JESUS ALSO DOING SALAH.
Do you also do it like Jesus?
Look carefully at the following verse.
Matthew 15: 8 "This nation glorifies Me (Allah) with its lips, even though its heart is far from Me. Matthew 15: 9 "It is useless to worship Me, while the teachings they teach are human commands."
CAN YOU TAKE THE TRUE MEANING FROM THAT VERSES ?
(Who was the Apostles before Jesus there was no Apostles before Jesus and he was only one who could ordained Apostles not like Muhammad who apointed himself as Allah's false Apostle.)
Answer: The Apostles before Jesus included: Noah, Ibrahim, Moses, and others.
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There was no Kabaa in Ezekiel's time and Dawid's time you changed the words of the bible so it can fits the Quran Not even Abrahaham or Ismail build the Kabaa like some Muslims who changed the history to ligalise islam. Psalm 138:2 "I want to bow down to Your holy temple and praise Your name, because of Your love and because of Your faithfulness; for You make Your name and Your promise above all things."
Does that verse mean that the Prophet David worshiped the Kaaba ? Not! he worshiped Allah, although facing the Kaaba.
Dawid did not worship the Allah of Muhammad.
Ezekiel 44: 4. "Then He carried me through the north gate to the front of the temple; I see, truly, God's house full of God's glory, so I bow down."
Does that verse mean that the prophet Ezekiel worshiped the Temple? Not! he worshiped Allah, although facing the Qibla.( Kabaa) Then the Jews must also be called Muslsims sorry why did Muhammad expelled all the Jews from Arabia cause they did not worship the same God as the muslims did.
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(There was no Kabaa in Ezekiel's time and Dawid's time you changed the words of the bible so it can fits the Quran.)
Answer: The first form of Kabaa was not like now, but all the Prophets knew that the Kabaa had existed since the Prophet Adam.
I didn't change the words of the bible, you'd better ask to the Scribes why they change it.
(Not even Abrahaham or Ismail build the Kabaa like some Muslims who changed the history to ligalise islam.)
Answer: Yes, the Prophet Ibrahim and his son (Ismail) had rebuilt the Kabaa so that it looked like now.
(Dawid did not worship the Allah of Muhammad.)
Answer: So who is his God ? Jesus ? No.., at that time Jesus wasn't born.
(Then the Jews must also be called Muslsims sorry why did Muhammad expelled all the Jews from Arabia cause they did not worship the same God as the muslims did.)
Answer: The word of Muslims are from Arabic which means to surrender to one God and He is not similar to His creatures. So anyone who surrenders to one God and believes that God is not similar to His creatures means Muslims (in Arabic), it does not mean the language is the same as the language of the Prophets before the Prophet Muhammad.
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Okay Adam build the Kabaa for who?
Who are all the prophets who knew about the Kabaa since Adam's time?
If Adam build the Kabaa so why then must Abraham and Ismail build the Kabaa, was Mecca populated by the time of Abraham. If Abraham and Ismail build the Kabaa where did they got bricks and cement from maybe from the local Arabs that time.
The first form of Kabaa was not like now, but all the Prophets knew that the Kabaa had existed since the Prophet Adam.(Adam was not prophet) What was the first form of look a like.
I have asked you why did Muhammad expelled all the jews from Arabia?
Your answer Muslim means surrender.
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Posted: 04 January 2020 at 5:09am |
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...Why was there no other references outside any non islamic
references and even in the bible nothing at all just a fairy tale imagination
of your false cult leader about Dajjal who wanted impress his uneducated
followers with his lies and deceptions... |
What?... you want us to educate you about your own bible??... you don't even know your own bible and you come on here 'slandering' the Qur'an?
In Christianity, Dajjal is known as the Anti-christ. He is mentioned in the bible, sometimes by name and sometimes by attributes. For example:
1 John 2:18 Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour.
2 Thessalonians 2:4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God.
Revelation 13:13-18 He performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men.
You are typical of all Islamophobes... they don't know what they are talking about... They talk out of their ignorance
P.S. I am studying the Bible and the Taurah at the moment (as well as the Qur'an), and I can firmly say: Alhamdulillah (Praise to Allah) for the Qur'an... it is really in a higher league of its own... The Qur'an is the absolute TRUTH!
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1 John 2:22 So who is
lying here? It’s the person who denies that Jesus is the Divine Christ, that’s
who. This is what makes an
antichrist: denying the Father, denying the Son. No one who denies the Son has
any part with the Father, but affirming the Son is an embrace of
the Father as well.
Qur’an 19:88
Those who say: ‘The Lord of Mercy has begotten a son,’
preach a monstrous falsehood, at which the very heavens might crack, the earth
break asunder, and the mountains crumble to dust. That they should ascribe a
son to the Merciful, when it does not become the Lord of Mercy to beget one!
Qur’an 23:91
Say: ‘How then can you be so bewitched?’We have revealed to
them the truth, but they are liars all.Never has God begotten a son, nor is
there any other god besides Him. Were this otherwise, each god would govern his
own creation, each holding himself above the other. Exalted be God above their
falsehoods!
Qur'an 72:3
He (exalted be the glory of our Lord!) has taken no wife,
nor has He begotten any children. The Blaspheming One among us has uttered a
wanton falsehood against God, although we had supposed no man or jinee could tell
of Him what is untrue.
This was exactly what Muhammad did to do some modifications to his so called words
of Allah.
Allah can not be a Father (In bible denying the Father is
the Antichrist)
Allah can not have a Son (In the bible denying the Son is
the Antichrist)
In islam according to Muhammad Jesus,Isa is not the Son
Allah (Again denying that Jesus is not the Son God is the real Antichrist so
what does that tell you your false prophet
Muhammad created an Antichrist Empire who make its their mission to
destroy Christ and all His followers. But Allah had three daughters! but Allah's wife can not have a Son its not permitted by Muhammad. Islamaphobia is new islamic invention which Muslims discovered lately to gain simpathy by the non believers which meaes in the exact terms fear! for Muslims! fear,fear,fear,fear!. Okay is that enough I do not fear Muslims get a grip life. What must Jibrill be called then a Cynophob cause he did not visit Muhmmad cause there was puppy under the bed so then Jibrill run away he was scared of the puppy. Muhmmad was also a cynophod cause he said that Muslims must kill all black dogs cause there is a devil in every black doggie.
Dajjal is not in Christianity a hairy hen toed one eyed creature like Muhammad's description of his emulation of a antichrist or false messiah what ever muslim called it.
He Prophet further said that Dajjal would have a prominent
forehead and a wide neck. Short in height, but he would be very powerful, even
with a hunch in his back. He would walk with his feet apart, not like normal
men. Dajjal would have long and curly hair, so thick that his locks would look
like snakes hanging from his head, lots of them, coiled together.
Dajjal would be sterile, he would not have any children. The
Holy Prophet’s description of Dajjal clearly states that Dajjal would be a man,
not a woman, not a theory, not a nation, or any other sort of propaganda. He
would be a man and he would be alive. 2 Thessalonians 2:4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God.
This is the exact modus operandi that islam is following to exalt themselfs over everthing that is called God or is worship like islam there no God but Allah and Muhammad was his only prophet, islam will dominate the world, impliment sharia law in non muslim countries. |
(1 John 2:22 So who is lying here? It’s the person who denies that Jesus is the Divine Christ, that’s who. This is what makes an antichrist: denying the Father, denying the Son. No one who denies the Son has any part with the Father, but affirming the Son is an embrace of the Father as well.)
Answer: I want to ask you, is Jesus a human child or God's child ?
(Qur’an 19:88 Those who say: ‘The Lord of Mercy has begotten a son,’ preach a monstrous falsehood, at which the very heavens might crack, the earth break asunder, and the mountains crumble to dust. That they should ascribe a son to the Merciful, when it does not become the Lord of Mercy to beget one!)
Answer: Can you imagine if God has a son ? And He is a father ? Automatically the position of Maria's parents is higher than God, because they are God's parents-in-law. thus God's degree in human eyes will be weak.
(Qur’an 23:91 Say: ‘How then can you be so bewitched?’We have revealed to them the truth, but they are liars all.Never has God begotten a son, nor is there any other god besides Him. Were this otherwise, each god would govern his own creation, each holding himself above the other. Exalted be God above their falsehoods!)
Answer: Yes, if God more than one, They will fight for power. That verse can only be accepted by people who are smart in thinking.
(Qur'an 72:3
He (exalted be the glory of our Lord!) has taken no wife, nor has He begotten any children. The Blaspheming One among us has uttered a wanton falsehood against God, although we had supposed no man or jinee could tell of Him what is untrue.)
(This was exactly what Muhammad did to do some modifications to his so called words of Allah.)
Answer: That's just your prejudice because you don't like the Prophet Muhammad as the Messenger of Allah.
(Allah can not be a Father (In bible denying the Father is the Antichrist)
(Allah can not have a Son (In the bible denying the Son is the Antichrist))
Answer: Dajjal will claim that he is God, so people who are religious on this earth will become his enemies.
(In islam according to Muhammad Jesus,Isa is not the Son Allah (Again denying that Jesus is not the Son God is the real Antichrist so what does that tell you your false prophet Muhammad created an Antichrist Empire who make its their mission to destroy Christ and all His followers.)
Answer: I want to ask you, who will kill Dajjal ?
(But Allah had three daughters! but Allah's wife can not have a Son its not permitted by Muhammad.)
Answer: The acknowledgment that God had three children is derived from beliefs in ancient Babylonian times, namely the worshipers of the sun and consider that God a lot.
(Islamaphobia is new islamic invention which Muslims discovered lately to gain simpathy by the non believers which meaes in the exact terms fear! for Muslims! fear,fear,fear,fear!.)
Answer: I can read through the words that you write that your heart is upset. Be careful that the devil will easily tempt the hearts of people who are upset or angry. Whoever the person is, don't be afraid of Muslims (Islamaphobia), but fear to the God of Muslims who are watching us wherever we are.
(Okay is that enough I do not fear Muslims get a grip life.)
Answer: That means you don't admit the messengers of God, whereas they have a grip life.
(What must Jibrill be called then a Cynophob cause he did not visit Muhmmad cause there was puppy under the bed so then Jibrill run away he was scared of the puppy.)
Answer: Gabriel is not afraid of anyone except to Allah.
(Muhmmad was also a cynophod cause he said that Muslims must kill all black dogs cause there is a devil in every black doggie.)
Answer: The Prophet Muhammad did not dare to kill all creatures created by Allah unless there was an order from Allah.
(Dajjal is not in Christianity a hairy hen toed one eyed creature like Muhammad's description of his emulation of a antichrist or false messiah what ever muslim called it.)
(He Prophet further said that Dajjal would have a prominent forehead and a wide neck. Short in height, but he would be very powerful, even with a hunch in his back. He would walk with his feet apart, not like normal men. Dajjal would have long and curly hair, so thick that his locks would look like snakes hanging from his head, lots of them, coiled together.)
(Dajjal would be sterile, he would not have any children. The Holy Prophet’s description of Dajjal clearly states that Dajjal would be a man, not a woman, not a theory, not a nation, or any other sort of propaganda. He would be a man and he would be alive.)
Answer: Whatever the characteristics of Dajjal is not the main problem, but every person who doesn't admit him as God, will be killed. And the first people to be approached and to be killed are Muslims.
(2 Thessalonians 2:4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God.)
Answer: Yes he will claim as God.
(This is the exact modus operandi that islam is following to exalt themselfs over everthing that is called God or is worship like islam there no God but Allah and Muhammad was his only prophet, islam will dominate the world, impliment sharia law in non muslim countries.)
Answer: You are looking for loopholes to drop the teachings of Tawheed. For Muslims, there is no God except Allah. Muslims do not agree with Dajjal's claim, instead Muslims acknowledge that Dajjal is also Allah's creation.
Muslims invite all people in countries because they want to save humans, especially in the hereafter. Even if it is rejected, it will not be a problem for Muslims because they have conveyed Allah's commands.
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You can totally not visualise that the Dajjal was a fabrcation fairy tale of Muhammad as same as the Madhi supposed to be a descendant Muhammad which is also fabricated lie of Muhammad who wanted emulate the real Messiah to moraly impressed his believers
This last is the completely Moslemized version of the saga:
the intermediate stage being defined by the idea that the rule of the Mahdi
will be overthrown by Dajjal, in order that Anti-christ may in turn be
overthrown by Jesus at his second coming. The killing of the False Messiah will traumatize the
Christians and Jews who had followed him, for it will finally reveal to them
that he was not what he had claimed to be. The Prophet of Islam, may the mercy
and blessings of God be upon him, said:
"The son of Mary will soon descend among you and will
judge justly (according to the Law of God [26]): he will break the cross and
kill the pig... " (Saheeh Al-Bukhari)
The breaking of the cross may be figurative or literal: the
destruction of erected idols in churches and tearing down of crosses from their
steeples, as well as forbidding the use of personal crosses as symbols of
religion; or the destruction of the myth that he was executed by the Romans on
a cross at the instigation of the Jews. Likewise, the killing of the pigs may
be both literal and figurative: literally conducting a campaign to kill all
pigs so the consumption of their meat becomes impossible, allowing them to be
killed, or simply re-imposing the ban God made since time immemorial on
eating their flesh, effectively forcing pig farmers to get rid of their stock
by culling. In effect, two of the mainstays of widespread Christian practice
will be removed, indicating that the religion as taught by modern Christians
would henceforth be defunct, and marking a return to the religion as originally
intended. Muslims must have actually forgot Jesus will come to kill all the camels also they also must be killed.
Jesus himself will not only rule and judge by the Muslim
Shariah, he will complete all the Islamic pillars. The Prophet of Islam said:
"By him in Whose hand my life is, the son of Mary will
certainly invoke the name of God for Hajj or Umrah or both in the valley of
Rauha (a valley near Medina)." (Saheeh Muslim) This one the biggest lie in history I have ever heard that Jesus will die, Muslims believed Jesus never died on the cross now when he came back he will die what a lie what is wrong with Allah will he not save Jesus and take him up to heaven and they say in boast we kill Isa but they kill him not.
Then, forty years after his second coming, he will die, and
the Muslims will perform the funeral prayer for him. And this moment is the
moment God is referring to in the Quranic verse:
"And there is none of the People of the Book who must
believe in him before his death... " (Quran 4:159) |
(Jesus himself will not only rule and judge by the Muslim Shariah, he will complete all the Islamic pillars.)
Answer: Yes, that is all the teachings of Tawheed of the Prophets which have been perfected so that it is not only for one tribes but for all humans.
(This one the biggest lie in history I have ever heard that Jesus will die, Muslims believed Jesus never died on the cross now when he came back he will die what a lie what is wrong with Allah will he not save Jesus and take him up to heaven and they say in boast we kill Isa but they kill him not.)
Answer: If we think logically why Christians admit that Jesus was killed and tortured at the cross, while Muslims are defending Jesus that he was not tortured at the cross. So which one respects Jesus, and which one insults Jesus?
(Then, forty years after his second coming, he will die, and the Muslims will perform the funeral prayer for him.)
Answer: Yes, because Jesus was a devout and surrender (the meaning of Islam word) only to Allah.
("And there is none of the People of the Book who must believe in him before his death... " (Quran 4:159))
Answer: That verse explains that the Jesus will come down to earth and will straighten out what the scribes doubted about the murder of the Jesus (Qoran 4: 157), and at that time the scribes will recognize that Jesus is a man who is a messenger of Allah. And they will believe in Allah following Jesus (Qoran 4: 159)
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Jesus himself will not only rule and judge by the Muslim Shariah, he will complete all the Islamic pillars
So he will then ordained all the pagan rituals and customs that Muhammad copied from pagans as lawfull to practise in order get into Muhammad's paridise with 72 virgins.
Muslims follow five basic pillars that are essential to
their faith. These include:
Shahada: to declare one’s faith in God and belief in
Muhammad
Salat: to pray five times a day (at dawn, noon, afternoon,
sunset, and evening)
Zakat: to give to those in need
Sawm: to fast during Ramadan
Hajj: to make a pilgrimage to Mecca at least once during a
person’s lifetime if the person is able. Ther must be something seriously wrong: Why did Jesus never told his Apostles about the five pillars of Islam? And left them all in the dark that was so unfair. |
(Jesus himself will not only rule and judge by the Muslim Shariah, he will complete all the Islamic pillars)
Answer: Yes he will do it. Because he will follow the rules of God that apply at the end of time.
(So he will then ordained all the pagan rituals and customs that Muhammad copied from pagans as lawfull to practise in order get into Muhammad's paridise with 72 virgins.)
Answer: Prophet Muhammad didn't worship idols but he worshiped Allah who created all humans and everything in the universe.
(Ther must be something seriously wrong: Why did Jesus never told his Apostles about the five pillars of Islam? And left them all in the dark that was so unfair.)
Answer: Yes, Jesus will never tell the Apostles because before he was born there were Apostles. This proves that Jesus was a human.
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The islamic pillars are already compleet so what is the issue to complete all the isalmic pillars.
I said Muhammad used the old pagan rituals that he made lawfull for muslims to practise.
Who was the Apostles before Jesus there was no Apostles before Jesus and he was only one who could ordained Apostles not like Muhammad who apointed himself as Allah's false Apostle.
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(The islamic pillars are already compleet so what is the issue to complete all the isalmic pillars.)
Answer: All the rules and commands of Allah have been perfect since the existence of the Qur'an and the last Prophet (Muhammad), and it will apply until the end.
(I said Muhammad used the old pagan rituals that he made lawfull for muslims to practise.)
Answer: The ritual performed by the Prophet Muhammad was also carried out by the Prophets before.
Please consider the following verses !
Psalm 138:2 "I want to bow down to Your holy temple and praise Your name, because of Your love and because of Your faithfulness; for You make Your name and Your promise above all things."
Does that verse mean that the Prophet David worshiped the Kaaba ? Not! he worshiped Allah, although facing the Kaaba.
Ezekiel 44: 4. "Then He carried me through the north gate to the front of the temple; I see, truly, God's house full of God's glory, so I bow down."
Does that verse mean that the prophet Ezekiel worshiped the Temple? Not! he worshiped Allah, although facing the Qibla.
Mark 14:33 "And He took Peter, James and John with him. He was very scared and terrified, Mark 14:34 then he said to them: "My heart is very sad, as if I want to die. Stay here and keep watch." Mark 14:35 "He advanced a little, prostrate down on the ground and prayed that, if possible, that moment then from him."
THESE VERSES PROVE THAT JESUS ALSO DOING SALAH.
Do you also do it like Jesus?
Look carefully at the following verse.
Matthew 15: 8 "This nation glorifies Me (Allah) with its lips, even though its heart is far from Me. Matthew 15: 9 "It is useless to worship Me, while the teachings they teach are human commands."
CAN YOU TAKE THE TRUE MEANING FROM THAT VERSES ?
(Who was the Apostles before Jesus there was no Apostles before Jesus and he was only one who could ordained Apostles not like Muhammad who apointed himself as Allah's false Apostle.)
Answer: The Apostles before Jesus included: Noah, Ibrahim, Moses, and others.
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There was no Kabaa in Ezekiel's time and Dawid's time you changed the words of the bible so it can fits the Quran Not even Abrahaham or Ismail build the Kabaa like some Muslims who changed the history to ligalise islam. Psalm 138:2 "I want to bow down to Your holy temple and praise Your name, because of Your love and because of Your faithfulness; for You make Your name and Your promise above all things."
Does that verse mean that the Prophet David worshiped the Kaaba ? Not! he worshiped Allah, although facing the Kaaba.
Dawid did not worship the Allah of Muhammad.
Ezekiel 44: 4. "Then He carried me through the north gate to the front of the temple; I see, truly, God's house full of God's glory, so I bow down."
Does that verse mean that the prophet Ezekiel worshiped the Temple? Not! he worshiped Allah, although facing the Qibla.( Kabaa) Then the Jews must also be called Muslsims sorry why did Muhammad expelled all the Jews from Arabia cause they did not worship the same God as the muslims did.
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(There was no Kabaa in Ezekiel's time and Dawid's time you changed the words of the bible so it can fits the Quran.)
Answer: The first form of Kabaa was not like now, but all the Prophets knew that the Kabaa had existed since the Prophet Adam.
I didn't change the words of the bible, you'd better ask to the Scribes why they change it.
(Not even Abrahaham or Ismail build the Kabaa like some Muslims who changed the history to ligalise islam.)
Answer: Yes, the Prophet Ibrahim and his son (Ismail) had rebuilt the Kabaa so that it looked like now.
(Dawid did not worship the Allah of Muhammad.)
Answer: So who is his God ? Jesus ? No.., at that time Jesus wasn't born.
(Then the Jews must also be called Muslsims sorry why did Muhammad expelled all the Jews from Arabia cause they did not worship the same God as the muslims did.)
Answer: The word of Muslims are from Arabic which means to surrender to one God and He is not similar to His creatures. So anyone who surrenders to one God and believes that God is not similar to His creatures means Muslims (in Arabic), it does not mean the language is the same as the language of the Prophets before the Prophet Muhammad.
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Okay Adam build the Kabaa for who?
Who are all the prophets who knew about the Kabaa since Adam's time?
If Adam build the Kabaa so why then must Abraham and Ismail build the Kabaa, was Mecca populated by the time of Abraham. If Abraham and Ismail build the Kabaa where did they got bricks and cement from maybe from the local Arabs that time.
The first form of Kabaa was not like now, but all the Prophets knew that the Kabaa had existed since the Prophet Adam.(Adam was not prophet) What was the first form of look a like.
I have asked you why did Muhammad expelled all the jews from Arabia?
Your answer Muslim means surrender.
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(Okay Adam build the Kabaa for who?)
Answer: For all Muslims throughout the world so that when praying is recommended to face the Kaaba it doesn't mean that Muslims worship the Kaaba, but it is a symbol established by Allah for the orientation of the Muslims. Apart from that, it is also a symbol of the unity of the Islamic ummah when praying is facing towards the same point.
(Who are all the prophets who knew about the Kabaa since Adam's time?)
The Prophet Abraham, Ishmael (they rebuilt it), David, Ezekiel, Daniel, and others. I got this information from the Gospel, is it possible that the Gospel you have is not the same with mine ? Why do you believe the Gospel but you don't know it yourself ?
(If Adam build the Kabaa so why then must Abraham and Ismail build the Kabaa, was Mecca populated by the time of Abraham. If Abraham and Ismail build the Kabaa where did they got bricks and cement from maybe from the local Arabs that time.) Answer: The Prophet Adam did not build the Kaaba but Allah made it exist there. So, the previous Kaaba were not as we can see now. If you ask for about brick and cement, why don't you also ask for about wood, cloth etc. Sorry, I'm not a building material trader. I hope every one here knows what the meaning is.
(The first form of Kabaa was not like now, but all the Prophets knew that the Kabaa had existed since the Prophet Adam.) (Adam was not prophet) What was the first form of look a like.)
Answer: Sorry I don't live in the time of the Prophet Adam.
(I have asked you why did Muhammad expelled all the jews from Arabia?) (Your answer Muslim means surrender.)
Answer: I answer 'Muslim' means surrender not for Muhammad expelled all the jews from Arabia, but explaining that whoever the people worship only to one God and He is not as the same as His creatures is Muslim.
Then the reasons why the Prophet Muhammad expelled the Jews from Arabia, including:
1. At that time the Jews violated their agreement with the Prophet Muhammad that they wouldn't interfere and take offensive actions against Muslims.
2. Jews attempted assassination of Prophet Muhammad etc.
If I see from the verses, hadith, history that you posted on this forum, it seems more likely known who you really are.
Well.., then I will ask you which one is right between the two verses in the Gospel below ?
(........,....) "Then Gad came to David, telling him by saying, 'Will you be struck by SEVEN YEARS of famine in your land? or will you flee for three months before your opponents, while they pursue you?
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(........,....) Then Gad came to David, he said to him, thus saith the Lord: Thou shalt choose. THREE YEARS of starvation or three months you fled before your opponents, while your enemy's sword followed you?
Which one is correct SEVEN YEARS or THREE YEARS ?
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...Why was there no other references outside any non islamic
references and even in the bible nothing at all just a fairy tale imagination
of your false cult leader about Dajjal who wanted impress his uneducated
followers with his lies and deceptions... |
What?... you want us to educate you about your own bible??... you don't even know your own bible and you come on here 'slandering' the Qur'an?
In Christianity, Dajjal is known as the Anti-christ. He is mentioned in the bible, sometimes by name and sometimes by attributes. For example:
1 John 2:18 Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour.
2 Thessalonians 2:4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God.
Revelation 13:13-18 He performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men.
You are typical of all Islamophobes... they don't know what they are talking about... They talk out of their ignorance
P.S. I am studying the Bible and the Taurah at the moment (as well as the Qur'an), and I can firmly say: Alhamdulillah (Praise to Allah) for the Qur'an... it is really in a higher league of its own... The Qur'an is the absolute TRUTH!
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1 John 2:22 So who is
lying here? It’s the person who denies that Jesus is the Divine Christ, that’s
who. This is what makes an
antichrist: denying the Father, denying the Son. No one who denies the Son has
any part with the Father, but affirming the Son is an embrace of
the Father as well.
Qur’an 19:88
Those who say: ‘The Lord of Mercy has begotten a son,’
preach a monstrous falsehood, at which the very heavens might crack, the earth
break asunder, and the mountains crumble to dust. That they should ascribe a
son to the Merciful, when it does not become the Lord of Mercy to beget one!
Qur’an 23:91
Say: ‘How then can you be so bewitched?’We have revealed to
them the truth, but they are liars all.Never has God begotten a son, nor is
there any other god besides Him. Were this otherwise, each god would govern his
own creation, each holding himself above the other. Exalted be God above their
falsehoods!
Qur'an 72:3
He (exalted be the glory of our Lord!) has taken no wife,
nor has He begotten any children. The Blaspheming One among us has uttered a
wanton falsehood against God, although we had supposed no man or jinee could tell
of Him what is untrue.
This was exactly what Muhammad did to do some modifications to his so called words
of Allah.
Allah can not be a Father (In bible denying the Father is
the Antichrist)
Allah can not have a Son (In the bible denying the Son is
the Antichrist)
In islam according to Muhammad Jesus,Isa is not the Son
Allah (Again denying that Jesus is not the Son God is the real Antichrist so
what does that tell you your false prophet
Muhammad created an Antichrist Empire who make its their mission to
destroy Christ and all His followers. But Allah had three daughters! but Allah's wife can not have a Son its not permitted by Muhammad. Islamaphobia is new islamic invention which Muslims discovered lately to gain simpathy by the non believers which meaes in the exact terms fear! for Muslims! fear,fear,fear,fear!. Okay is that enough I do not fear Muslims get a grip life. What must Jibrill be called then a Cynophob cause he did not visit Muhmmad cause there was puppy under the bed so then Jibrill run away he was scared of the puppy. Muhmmad was also a cynophod cause he said that Muslims must kill all black dogs cause there is a devil in every black doggie.
Dajjal is not in Christianity a hairy hen toed one eyed creature like Muhammad's description of his emulation of a antichrist or false messiah what ever muslim called it.
He Prophet further said that Dajjal would have a prominent
forehead and a wide neck. Short in height, but he would be very powerful, even
with a hunch in his back. He would walk with his feet apart, not like normal
men. Dajjal would have long and curly hair, so thick that his locks would look
like snakes hanging from his head, lots of them, coiled together.
Dajjal would be sterile, he would not have any children. The
Holy Prophet’s description of Dajjal clearly states that Dajjal would be a man,
not a woman, not a theory, not a nation, or any other sort of propaganda. He
would be a man and he would be alive. 2 Thessalonians 2:4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God.
This is the exact modus operandi that islam is following to exalt themselfs over everthing that is called God or is worship like islam there no God but Allah and Muhammad was his only prophet, islam will dominate the world, impliment sharia law in non muslim countries. |
(1 John 2:22 So who is lying here? It’s the person who denies that Jesus is the Divine Christ, that’s who. This is what makes an antichrist: denying the Father, denying the Son. No one who denies the Son has any part with the Father, but affirming the Son is an embrace of the Father as well.)
Answer: I want to ask you, is Jesus a human child or God's child ?
(Qur’an 19:88 Those who say: ‘The Lord of Mercy has begotten a son,’ preach a monstrous falsehood, at which the very heavens might crack, the earth break asunder, and the mountains crumble to dust. That they should ascribe a son to the Merciful, when it does not become the Lord of Mercy to beget one!)
Answer: Can you imagine if God has a son ? And He is a father ? Automatically the position of Maria's parents is higher than God, because they are God's parents-in-law. thus God's degree in human eyes will be weak.
(Qur’an 23:91 Say: ‘How then can you be so bewitched?’We have revealed to them the truth, but they are liars all.Never has God begotten a son, nor is there any other god besides Him. Were this otherwise, each god would govern his own creation, each holding himself above the other. Exalted be God above their falsehoods!)
Answer: Yes, if God more than one, They will fight for power. That verse can only be accepted by people who are smart in thinking.
(Qur'an 72:3
He (exalted be the glory of our Lord!) has taken no wife, nor has He begotten any children. The Blaspheming One among us has uttered a wanton falsehood against God, although we had supposed no man or jinee could tell of Him what is untrue.)
(This was exactly what Muhammad did to do some modifications to his so called words of Allah.)
Answer: That's just your prejudice because you don't like the Prophet Muhammad as the Messenger of Allah.
(Allah can not be a Father (In bible denying the Father is the Antichrist)
(Allah can not have a Son (In the bible denying the Son is the Antichrist))
Answer: Dajjal will claim that he is God, so people who are religious on this earth will become his enemies.
(In islam according to Muhammad Jesus,Isa is not the Son Allah (Again denying that Jesus is not the Son God is the real Antichrist so what does that tell you your false prophet Muhammad created an Antichrist Empire who make its their mission to destroy Christ and all His followers.)
Answer: I want to ask you, who will kill Dajjal ?
(But Allah had three daughters! but Allah's wife can not have a Son its not permitted by Muhammad.)
Answer: The acknowledgment that God had three children is derived from beliefs in ancient Babylonian times, namely the worshipers of the sun and consider that God a lot.
(Islamaphobia is new islamic invention which Muslims discovered lately to gain simpathy by the non believers which meaes in the exact terms fear! for Muslims! fear,fear,fear,fear!.)
Answer: I can read through the words that you write that your heart is upset. Be careful that the devil will easily tempt the hearts of people who are upset or angry. Whoever the person is, don't be afraid of Muslims (Islamaphobia), but fear to the God of Muslims who are watching us wherever we are.
(Okay is that enough I do not fear Muslims get a grip life.)
Answer: That means you don't admit the messengers of God, whereas they have a grip life.
(What must Jibrill be called then a Cynophob cause he did not visit Muhmmad cause there was puppy under the bed so then Jibrill run away he was scared of the puppy.)
Answer: Gabriel is not afraid of anyone except to Allah.
(Muhmmad was also a cynophod cause he said that Muslims must kill all black dogs cause there is a devil in every black doggie.)
Answer: The Prophet Muhammad did not dare to kill all creatures created by Allah unless there was an order from Allah.
(Dajjal is not in Christianity a hairy hen toed one eyed creature like Muhammad's description of his emulation of a antichrist or false messiah what ever muslim called it.)
(He Prophet further said that Dajjal would have a prominent forehead and a wide neck. Short in height, but he would be very powerful, even with a hunch in his back. He would walk with his feet apart, not like normal men. Dajjal would have long and curly hair, so thick that his locks would look like snakes hanging from his head, lots of them, coiled together.)
(Dajjal would be sterile, he would not have any children. The Holy Prophet’s description of Dajjal clearly states that Dajjal would be a man, not a woman, not a theory, not a nation, or any other sort of propaganda. He would be a man and he would be alive.)
Answer: Whatever the characteristics of Dajjal is not the main problem, but every person who doesn't admit him as God, will be killed. And the first people to be approached and to be killed are Muslims.
(2 Thessalonians 2:4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God.)
Answer: Yes he will claim as God.
(This is the exact modus operandi that islam is following to exalt themselfs over everthing that is called God or is worship like islam there no God but Allah and Muhammad was his only prophet, islam will dominate the world, impliment sharia law in non muslim countries.)
Answer: You are looking for loopholes to drop the teachings of Tawheed. For Muslims, there is no God except Allah. Muslims do not agree with Dajjal's claim, instead Muslims acknowledge that Dajjal is also Allah's creation.
Muslims invite all people in countries because they want to save humans, especially in the hereafter. Even if it is rejected, it will not be a problem for Muslims because they have conveyed Allah's commands.
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You can totally not visualise that the Dajjal was a fabrcation fairy tale of Muhammad as same as the Madhi supposed to be a descendant Muhammad which is also fabricated lie of Muhammad who wanted emulate the real Messiah to moraly impressed his believers
This last is the completely Moslemized version of the saga:
the intermediate stage being defined by the idea that the rule of the Mahdi
will be overthrown by Dajjal, in order that Anti-christ may in turn be
overthrown by Jesus at his second coming. The killing of the False Messiah will traumatize the
Christians and Jews who had followed him, for it will finally reveal to them
that he was not what he had claimed to be. The Prophet of Islam, may the mercy
and blessings of God be upon him, said:
"The son of Mary will soon descend among you and will
judge justly (according to the Law of God [26]): he will break the cross and
kill the pig... " (Saheeh Al-Bukhari)
The breaking of the cross may be figurative or literal: the
destruction of erected idols in churches and tearing down of crosses from their
steeples, as well as forbidding the use of personal crosses as symbols of
religion; or the destruction of the myth that he was executed by the Romans on
a cross at the instigation of the Jews. Likewise, the killing of the pigs may
be both literal and figurative: literally conducting a campaign to kill all
pigs so the consumption of their meat becomes impossible, allowing them to be
killed, or simply re-imposing the ban God made since time immemorial on
eating their flesh, effectively forcing pig farmers to get rid of their stock
by culling. In effect, two of the mainstays of widespread Christian practice
will be removed, indicating that the religion as taught by modern Christians
would henceforth be defunct, and marking a return to the religion as originally
intended. Muslims must have actually forgot Jesus will come to kill all the camels also they also must be killed.
Jesus himself will not only rule and judge by the Muslim
Shariah, he will complete all the Islamic pillars. The Prophet of Islam said:
"By him in Whose hand my life is, the son of Mary will
certainly invoke the name of God for Hajj or Umrah or both in the valley of
Rauha (a valley near Medina)." (Saheeh Muslim) This one the biggest lie in history I have ever heard that Jesus will die, Muslims believed Jesus never died on the cross now when he came back he will die what a lie what is wrong with Allah will he not save Jesus and take him up to heaven and they say in boast we kill Isa but they kill him not.
Then, forty years after his second coming, he will die, and
the Muslims will perform the funeral prayer for him. And this moment is the
moment God is referring to in the Quranic verse:
"And there is none of the People of the Book who must
believe in him before his death... " (Quran 4:159) |
(Jesus himself will not only rule and judge by the Muslim Shariah, he will complete all the Islamic pillars.)
Answer: Yes, that is all the teachings of Tawheed of the Prophets which have been perfected so that it is not only for one tribes but for all humans.
(This one the biggest lie in history I have ever heard that Jesus will die, Muslims believed Jesus never died on the cross now when he came back he will die what a lie what is wrong with Allah will he not save Jesus and take him up to heaven and they say in boast we kill Isa but they kill him not.)
Answer: If we think logically why Christians admit that Jesus was killed and tortured at the cross, while Muslims are defending Jesus that he was not tortured at the cross. So which one respects Jesus, and which one insults Jesus?
(Then, forty years after his second coming, he will die, and the Muslims will perform the funeral prayer for him.)
Answer: Yes, because Jesus was a devout and surrender (the meaning of Islam word) only to Allah.
("And there is none of the People of the Book who must believe in him before his death... " (Quran 4:159))
Answer: That verse explains that the Jesus will come down to earth and will straighten out what the scribes doubted about the murder of the Jesus (Qoran 4: 157), and at that time the scribes will recognize that Jesus is a man who is a messenger of Allah. And they will believe in Allah following Jesus (Qoran 4: 159)
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Jesus himself will not only rule and judge by the Muslim Shariah, he will complete all the Islamic pillars
So he will then ordained all the pagan rituals and customs that Muhammad copied from pagans as lawfull to practise in order get into Muhammad's paridise with 72 virgins.
Muslims follow five basic pillars that are essential to
their faith. These include:
Shahada: to declare one’s faith in God and belief in
Muhammad
Salat: to pray five times a day (at dawn, noon, afternoon,
sunset, and evening)
Zakat: to give to those in need
Sawm: to fast during Ramadan
Hajj: to make a pilgrimage to Mecca at least once during a
person’s lifetime if the person is able. Ther must be something seriously wrong: Why did Jesus never told his Apostles about the five pillars of Islam? And left them all in the dark that was so unfair. |
(Jesus himself will not only rule and judge by the Muslim Shariah, he will complete all the Islamic pillars)
Answer: Yes he will do it. Because he will follow the rules of God that apply at the end of time.
(So he will then ordained all the pagan rituals and customs that Muhammad copied from pagans as lawfull to practise in order get into Muhammad's paridise with 72 virgins.)
Answer: Prophet Muhammad didn't worship idols but he worshiped Allah who created all humans and everything in the universe.
(Ther must be something seriously wrong: Why did Jesus never told his Apostles about the five pillars of Islam? And left them all in the dark that was so unfair.)
Answer: Yes, Jesus will never tell the Apostles because before he was born there were Apostles. This proves that Jesus was a human.
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The islamic pillars are already compleet so what is the issue to complete all the isalmic pillars.
I said Muhammad used the old pagan rituals that he made lawfull for muslims to practise.
Who was the Apostles before Jesus there was no Apostles before Jesus and he was only one who could ordained Apostles not like Muhammad who apointed himself as Allah's false Apostle.
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(The islamic pillars are already compleet so what is the issue to complete all the isalmic pillars.)
Answer: All the rules and commands of Allah have been perfect since the existence of the Qur'an and the last Prophet (Muhammad), and it will apply until the end.
(I said Muhammad used the old pagan rituals that he made lawfull for muslims to practise.)
Answer: The ritual performed by the Prophet Muhammad was also carried out by the Prophets before.
Please consider the following verses !
Psalm 138:2 "I want to bow down to Your holy temple and praise Your name, because of Your love and because of Your faithfulness; for You make Your name and Your promise above all things."
Does that verse mean that the Prophet David worshiped the Kaaba ? Not! he worshiped Allah, although facing the Kaaba.
Ezekiel 44: 4. "Then He carried me through the north gate to the front of the temple; I see, truly, God's house full of God's glory, so I bow down."
Does that verse mean that the prophet Ezekiel worshiped the Temple? Not! he worshiped Allah, although facing the Qibla.
Mark 14:33 "And He took Peter, James and John with him. He was very scared and terrified, Mark 14:34 then he said to them: "My heart is very sad, as if I want to die. Stay here and keep watch." Mark 14:35 "He advanced a little, prostrate down on the ground and prayed that, if possible, that moment then from him."
THESE VERSES PROVE THAT JESUS ALSO DOING SALAH.
Do you also do it like Jesus?
Look carefully at the following verse.
Matthew 15: 8 "This nation glorifies Me (Allah) with its lips, even though its heart is far from Me. Matthew 15: 9 "It is useless to worship Me, while the teachings they teach are human commands."
CAN YOU TAKE THE TRUE MEANING FROM THAT VERSES ?
(Who was the Apostles before Jesus there was no Apostles before Jesus and he was only one who could ordained Apostles not like Muhammad who apointed himself as Allah's false Apostle.)
Answer: The Apostles before Jesus included: Noah, Ibrahim, Moses, and others.
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There was no Kabaa in Ezekiel's time and Dawid's time you changed the words of the bible so it can fits the Quran Not even Abrahaham or Ismail build the Kabaa like some Muslims who changed the history to ligalise islam. Psalm 138:2 "I want to bow down to Your holy temple and praise Your name, because of Your love and because of Your faithfulness; for You make Your name and Your promise above all things."
Does that verse mean that the Prophet David worshiped the Kaaba ? Not! he worshiped Allah, although facing the Kaaba.
Dawid did not worship the Allah of Muhammad.
Ezekiel 44: 4. "Then He carried me through the north gate to the front of the temple; I see, truly, God's house full of God's glory, so I bow down."
Does that verse mean that the prophet Ezekiel worshiped the Temple? Not! he worshiped Allah, although facing the Qibla.( Kabaa) Then the Jews must also be called Muslsims sorry why did Muhammad expelled all the Jews from Arabia cause they did not worship the same God as the muslims did.
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(There was no Kabaa in Ezekiel's time and Dawid's time you changed the words of the bible so it can fits the Quran.)
Answer: The first form of Kabaa was not like now, but all the Prophets knew that the Kabaa had existed since the Prophet Adam.
I didn't change the words of the bible, you'd better ask to the Scribes why they change it.
(Not even Abrahaham or Ismail build the Kabaa like some Muslims who changed the history to ligalise islam.)
Answer: Yes, the Prophet Ibrahim and his son (Ismail) had rebuilt the Kabaa so that it looked like now.
(Dawid did not worship the Allah of Muhammad.)
Answer: So who is his God ? Jesus ? No.., at that time Jesus wasn't born.
(Then the Jews must also be called Muslsims sorry why did Muhammad expelled all the Jews from Arabia cause they did not worship the same God as the muslims did.)
Answer: The word of Muslims are from Arabic which means to surrender to one God and He is not similar to His creatures. So anyone who surrenders to one God and believes that God is not similar to His creatures means Muslims (in Arabic), it does not mean the language is the same as the language of the Prophets before the Prophet Muhammad.
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Okay Adam build the Kabaa for who?
Who are all the prophets who knew about the Kabaa since Adam's time?
If Adam build the Kabaa so why then must Abraham and Ismail build the Kabaa, was Mecca populated by the time of Abraham. If Abraham and Ismail build the Kabaa where did they got bricks and cement from maybe from the local Arabs that time.
The first form of Kabaa was not like now, but all the Prophets knew that the Kabaa had existed since the Prophet Adam.(Adam was not prophet) What was the first form of look a like.
I have asked you why did Muhammad expelled all the jews from Arabia?
Your answer Muslim means surrender.
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(Okay Adam build the Kabaa for who?)
Answer: For all Muslims throughout the world so that when praying is recommended to face the Kaaba it doesn't mean that Muslims worship the Kaaba, but it is a symbol established by Allah for the orientation of the Muslims. Apart from that, it is also a symbol of the unity of the Islamic ummah when praying is facing towards the same point.
(Who are all the prophets who knew about the Kabaa since Adam's time?)
The Prophet Abraham, Ishmael (they rebuilt it), David, Ezekiel, Daniel, and others. I got this information from the Gospel, is it possible that the Gospel you have is not the same with mine ? Why do you believe the Gospel but you don't know it yourself ?
(If Adam build the Kabaa so why then must Abraham and Ismail build the Kabaa, was Mecca populated by the time of Abraham. If Abraham and Ismail build the Kabaa where did they got bricks and cement from maybe from the local Arabs that time.) Answer: The Prophet Adam did not build the Kaaba but Allah made it exist there. So, the previous Kaaba were not as we can see now. If you ask for about brick and cement, why don't you also ask for about wood, cloth etc. Sorry, I'm not a building material trader. I hope every one here knows what the meaning is.
(The first form of Kabaa was not like now, but all the Prophets knew that the Kabaa had existed since the Prophet Adam.) (Adam was not prophet) What was the first form of look a like.)
Answer: Sorry I don't live in the time of the Prophet Adam.
(I have asked you why did Muhammad expelled all the jews from Arabia?) (Your answer Muslim means surrender.)
Answer: I answer 'Muslim' means surrender not for Muhammad expelled all the jews from Arabia, but explaining that whoever the people worship only to one God and He is not as the same as His creatures is Muslim.
Then the reasons why the Prophet Muhammad expelled the Jews from Arabia, including:
1. At that time the Jews violated their agreement with the Prophet Muhammad that they wouldn't interfere and take offensive actions against Muslims.
2. Jews attempted assassination of Prophet Muhammad etc.
If I see from the verses, hadith, history that you posted on this forum, it seems more likely known who you really are.
Well.., then I will ask you which one is right between the two verses in the Gospel below ?
(........,....) "Then Gad came to David, telling him by saying, 'Will you be struck by SEVEN YEARS of famine in your land? or will you flee for three months before your opponents, while they pursue you?
And
(........,....) Then Gad came to David, he said to him, thus saith the Lord: Thou shalt choose. THREE YEARS of starvation or three months you fled before your opponents, while your enemy's sword followed you?
Which one is correct SEVEN YEARS or THREE YEARS ?
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(Okay Adam build the Kabaa for who?)
Answer: For all Muslims throughout the world so that when praying is recommended to face the Kaaba it doesn't mean that Muslims worship the Kaaba, but it is a symbol established by Allah for the orientation of the Muslims. Apart from that, it is also a symbol of the unity of the Islamic ummah when praying is facing towards the same point.
There was no muslims in Adam's time lie no 1 lie no 2 neither Adam or Abrham or Ismail bulid the Kabaa that was to twist the history of Islam to legalise an iligal cult of Muhammad to fit Islam also in the picture as a so called Abrahamic religeon Isreal was not religeon of Abraham but his children.
The pagans build the Kabaa who worshipped the moon god Allah now muslims worship the same god.
In the time of Abraham there was no Mecca so I don't know who invented this lie Abraham build the Kabaa the so called house Allah. The pagans build it and Muhammad take over ownership of the Kabaa and make pagan holy shrine a Muslim holy shrine to ensure all the cashflow cme into his pockets.
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...Why was there no other references outside any non islamic
references and even in the bible nothing at all just a fairy tale imagination
of your false cult leader about Dajjal who wanted impress his uneducated
followers with his lies and deceptions... |
What?... you want us to educate you about your own bible??... you don't even know your own bible and you come on here 'slandering' the Qur'an?
In Christianity, Dajjal is known as the Anti-christ. He is mentioned in the bible, sometimes by name and sometimes by attributes. For example:
1 John 2:18 Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour.
2 Thessalonians 2:4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God.
Revelation 13:13-18 He performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men.
You are typical of all Islamophobes... they don't know what they are talking about... They talk out of their ignorance
P.S. I am studying the Bible and the Taurah at the moment (as well as the Qur'an), and I can firmly say: Alhamdulillah (Praise to Allah) for the Qur'an... it is really in a higher league of its own... The Qur'an is the absolute TRUTH!
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1 John 2:22 So who is
lying here? It’s the person who denies that Jesus is the Divine Christ, that’s
who. This is what makes an
antichrist: denying the Father, denying the Son. No one who denies the Son has
any part with the Father, but affirming the Son is an embrace of
the Father as well.
Qur’an 19:88
Those who say: ‘The Lord of Mercy has begotten a son,’
preach a monstrous falsehood, at which the very heavens might crack, the earth
break asunder, and the mountains crumble to dust. That they should ascribe a
son to the Merciful, when it does not become the Lord of Mercy to beget one!
Qur’an 23:91
Say: ‘How then can you be so bewitched?’We have revealed to
them the truth, but they are liars all.Never has God begotten a son, nor is
there any other god besides Him. Were this otherwise, each god would govern his
own creation, each holding himself above the other. Exalted be God above their
falsehoods!
Qur'an 72:3
He (exalted be the glory of our Lord!) has taken no wife,
nor has He begotten any children. The Blaspheming One among us has uttered a
wanton falsehood against God, although we had supposed no man or jinee could tell
of Him what is untrue.
This was exactly what Muhammad did to do some modifications to his so called words
of Allah.
Allah can not be a Father (In bible denying the Father is
the Antichrist)
Allah can not have a Son (In the bible denying the Son is
the Antichrist)
In islam according to Muhammad Jesus,Isa is not the Son
Allah (Again denying that Jesus is not the Son God is the real Antichrist so
what does that tell you your false prophet
Muhammad created an Antichrist Empire who make its their mission to
destroy Christ and all His followers. But Allah had three daughters! but Allah's wife can not have a Son its not permitted by Muhammad. Islamaphobia is new islamic invention which Muslims discovered lately to gain simpathy by the non believers which meaes in the exact terms fear! for Muslims! fear,fear,fear,fear!. Okay is that enough I do not fear Muslims get a grip life. What must Jibrill be called then a Cynophob cause he did not visit Muhmmad cause there was puppy under the bed so then Jibrill run away he was scared of the puppy. Muhmmad was also a cynophod cause he said that Muslims must kill all black dogs cause there is a devil in every black doggie.
Dajjal is not in Christianity a hairy hen toed one eyed creature like Muhammad's description of his emulation of a antichrist or false messiah what ever muslim called it.
He Prophet further said that Dajjal would have a prominent
forehead and a wide neck. Short in height, but he would be very powerful, even
with a hunch in his back. He would walk with his feet apart, not like normal
men. Dajjal would have long and curly hair, so thick that his locks would look
like snakes hanging from his head, lots of them, coiled together.
Dajjal would be sterile, he would not have any children. The
Holy Prophet’s description of Dajjal clearly states that Dajjal would be a man,
not a woman, not a theory, not a nation, or any other sort of propaganda. He
would be a man and he would be alive. 2 Thessalonians 2:4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God.
This is the exact modus operandi that islam is following to exalt themselfs over everthing that is called God or is worship like islam there no God but Allah and Muhammad was his only prophet, islam will dominate the world, impliment sharia law in non muslim countries. |
(1 John 2:22 So who is lying here? It’s the person who denies that Jesus is the Divine Christ, that’s who. This is what makes an antichrist: denying the Father, denying the Son. No one who denies the Son has any part with the Father, but affirming the Son is an embrace of the Father as well.)
Answer: I want to ask you, is Jesus a human child or God's child ?
(Qur’an 19:88 Those who say: ‘The Lord of Mercy has begotten a son,’ preach a monstrous falsehood, at which the very heavens might crack, the earth break asunder, and the mountains crumble to dust. That they should ascribe a son to the Merciful, when it does not become the Lord of Mercy to beget one!)
Answer: Can you imagine if God has a son ? And He is a father ? Automatically the position of Maria's parents is higher than God, because they are God's parents-in-law. thus God's degree in human eyes will be weak.
(Qur’an 23:91 Say: ‘How then can you be so bewitched?’We have revealed to them the truth, but they are liars all.Never has God begotten a son, nor is there any other god besides Him. Were this otherwise, each god would govern his own creation, each holding himself above the other. Exalted be God above their falsehoods!)
Answer: Yes, if God more than one, They will fight for power. That verse can only be accepted by people who are smart in thinking.
(Qur'an 72:3
He (exalted be the glory of our Lord!) has taken no wife, nor has He begotten any children. The Blaspheming One among us has uttered a wanton falsehood against God, although we had supposed no man or jinee could tell of Him what is untrue.)
(This was exactly what Muhammad did to do some modifications to his so called words of Allah.)
Answer: That's just your prejudice because you don't like the Prophet Muhammad as the Messenger of Allah.
(Allah can not be a Father (In bible denying the Father is the Antichrist)
(Allah can not have a Son (In the bible denying the Son is the Antichrist))
Answer: Dajjal will claim that he is God, so people who are religious on this earth will become his enemies.
(In islam according to Muhammad Jesus,Isa is not the Son Allah (Again denying that Jesus is not the Son God is the real Antichrist so what does that tell you your false prophet Muhammad created an Antichrist Empire who make its their mission to destroy Christ and all His followers.)
Answer: I want to ask you, who will kill Dajjal ?
(But Allah had three daughters! but Allah's wife can not have a Son its not permitted by Muhammad.)
Answer: The acknowledgment that God had three children is derived from beliefs in ancient Babylonian times, namely the worshipers of the sun and consider that God a lot.
(Islamaphobia is new islamic invention which Muslims discovered lately to gain simpathy by the non believers which meaes in the exact terms fear! for Muslims! fear,fear,fear,fear!.)
Answer: I can read through the words that you write that your heart is upset. Be careful that the devil will easily tempt the hearts of people who are upset or angry. Whoever the person is, don't be afraid of Muslims (Islamaphobia), but fear to the God of Muslims who are watching us wherever we are.
(Okay is that enough I do not fear Muslims get a grip life.)
Answer: That means you don't admit the messengers of God, whereas they have a grip life.
(What must Jibrill be called then a Cynophob cause he did not visit Muhmmad cause there was puppy under the bed so then Jibrill run away he was scared of the puppy.)
Answer: Gabriel is not afraid of anyone except to Allah.
(Muhmmad was also a cynophod cause he said that Muslims must kill all black dogs cause there is a devil in every black doggie.)
Answer: The Prophet Muhammad did not dare to kill all creatures created by Allah unless there was an order from Allah.
(Dajjal is not in Christianity a hairy hen toed one eyed creature like Muhammad's description of his emulation of a antichrist or false messiah what ever muslim called it.)
(He Prophet further said that Dajjal would have a prominent forehead and a wide neck. Short in height, but he would be very powerful, even with a hunch in his back. He would walk with his feet apart, not like normal men. Dajjal would have long and curly hair, so thick that his locks would look like snakes hanging from his head, lots of them, coiled together.)
(Dajjal would be sterile, he would not have any children. The Holy Prophet’s description of Dajjal clearly states that Dajjal would be a man, not a woman, not a theory, not a nation, or any other sort of propaganda. He would be a man and he would be alive.)
Answer: Whatever the characteristics of Dajjal is not the main problem, but every person who doesn't admit him as God, will be killed. And the first people to be approached and to be killed are Muslims.
(2 Thessalonians 2:4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God.)
Answer: Yes he will claim as God.
(This is the exact modus operandi that islam is following to exalt themselfs over everthing that is called God or is worship like islam there no God but Allah and Muhammad was his only prophet, islam will dominate the world, impliment sharia law in non muslim countries.)
Answer: You are looking for loopholes to drop the teachings of Tawheed. For Muslims, there is no God except Allah. Muslims do not agree with Dajjal's claim, instead Muslims acknowledge that Dajjal is also Allah's creation.
Muslims invite all people in countries because they want to save humans, especially in the hereafter. Even if it is rejected, it will not be a problem for Muslims because they have conveyed Allah's commands.
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You can totally not visualise that the Dajjal was a fabrcation fairy tale of Muhammad as same as the Madhi supposed to be a descendant Muhammad which is also fabricated lie of Muhammad who wanted emulate the real Messiah to moraly impressed his believers
This last is the completely Moslemized version of the saga:
the intermediate stage being defined by the idea that the rule of the Mahdi
will be overthrown by Dajjal, in order that Anti-christ may in turn be
overthrown by Jesus at his second coming. The killing of the False Messiah will traumatize the
Christians and Jews who had followed him, for it will finally reveal to them
that he was not what he had claimed to be. The Prophet of Islam, may the mercy
and blessings of God be upon him, said:
"The son of Mary will soon descend among you and will
judge justly (according to the Law of God [26]): he will break the cross and
kill the pig... " (Saheeh Al-Bukhari)
The breaking of the cross may be figurative or literal: the
destruction of erected idols in churches and tearing down of crosses from their
steeples, as well as forbidding the use of personal crosses as symbols of
religion; or the destruction of the myth that he was executed by the Romans on
a cross at the instigation of the Jews. Likewise, the killing of the pigs may
be both literal and figurative: literally conducting a campaign to kill all
pigs so the consumption of their meat becomes impossible, allowing them to be
killed, or simply re-imposing the ban God made since time immemorial on
eating their flesh, effectively forcing pig farmers to get rid of their stock
by culling. In effect, two of the mainstays of widespread Christian practice
will be removed, indicating that the religion as taught by modern Christians
would henceforth be defunct, and marking a return to the religion as originally
intended. Muslims must have actually forgot Jesus will come to kill all the camels also they also must be killed.
Jesus himself will not only rule and judge by the Muslim
Shariah, he will complete all the Islamic pillars. The Prophet of Islam said:
"By him in Whose hand my life is, the son of Mary will
certainly invoke the name of God for Hajj or Umrah or both in the valley of
Rauha (a valley near Medina)." (Saheeh Muslim) This one the biggest lie in history I have ever heard that Jesus will die, Muslims believed Jesus never died on the cross now when he came back he will die what a lie what is wrong with Allah will he not save Jesus and take him up to heaven and they say in boast we kill Isa but they kill him not.
Then, forty years after his second coming, he will die, and
the Muslims will perform the funeral prayer for him. And this moment is the
moment God is referring to in the Quranic verse:
"And there is none of the People of the Book who must
believe in him before his death... " (Quran 4:159) |
(Jesus himself will not only rule and judge by the Muslim Shariah, he will complete all the Islamic pillars.)
Answer: Yes, that is all the teachings of Tawheed of the Prophets which have been perfected so that it is not only for one tribes but for all humans.
(This one the biggest lie in history I have ever heard that Jesus will die, Muslims believed Jesus never died on the cross now when he came back he will die what a lie what is wrong with Allah will he not save Jesus and take him up to heaven and they say in boast we kill Isa but they kill him not.)
Answer: If we think logically why Christians admit that Jesus was killed and tortured at the cross, while Muslims are defending Jesus that he was not tortured at the cross. So which one respects Jesus, and which one insults Jesus?
(Then, forty years after his second coming, he will die, and the Muslims will perform the funeral prayer for him.)
Answer: Yes, because Jesus was a devout and surrender (the meaning of Islam word) only to Allah.
("And there is none of the People of the Book who must believe in him before his death... " (Quran 4:159))
Answer: That verse explains that the Jesus will come down to earth and will straighten out what the scribes doubted about the murder of the Jesus (Qoran 4: 157), and at that time the scribes will recognize that Jesus is a man who is a messenger of Allah. And they will believe in Allah following Jesus (Qoran 4: 159)
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Jesus himself will not only rule and judge by the Muslim Shariah, he will complete all the Islamic pillars
So he will then ordained all the pagan rituals and customs that Muhammad copied from pagans as lawfull to practise in order get into Muhammad's paridise with 72 virgins.
Muslims follow five basic pillars that are essential to
their faith. These include:
Shahada: to declare one’s faith in God and belief in
Muhammad
Salat: to pray five times a day (at dawn, noon, afternoon,
sunset, and evening)
Zakat: to give to those in need
Sawm: to fast during Ramadan
Hajj: to make a pilgrimage to Mecca at least once during a
person’s lifetime if the person is able. Ther must be something seriously wrong: Why did Jesus never told his Apostles about the five pillars of Islam? And left them all in the dark that was so unfair. |
(Jesus himself will not only rule and judge by the Muslim Shariah, he will complete all the Islamic pillars)
Answer: Yes he will do it. Because he will follow the rules of God that apply at the end of time.
(So he will then ordained all the pagan rituals and customs that Muhammad copied from pagans as lawfull to practise in order get into Muhammad's paridise with 72 virgins.)
Answer: Prophet Muhammad didn't worship idols but he worshiped Allah who created all humans and everything in the universe.
(Ther must be something seriously wrong: Why did Jesus never told his Apostles about the five pillars of Islam? And left them all in the dark that was so unfair.)
Answer: Yes, Jesus will never tell the Apostles because before he was born there were Apostles. This proves that Jesus was a human.
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The islamic pillars are already compleet so what is the issue to complete all the isalmic pillars.
I said Muhammad used the old pagan rituals that he made lawfull for muslims to practise.
Who was the Apostles before Jesus there was no Apostles before Jesus and he was only one who could ordained Apostles not like Muhammad who apointed himself as Allah's false Apostle.
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(The islamic pillars are already compleet so what is the issue to complete all the isalmic pillars.)
Answer: All the rules and commands of Allah have been perfect since the existence of the Qur'an and the last Prophet (Muhammad), and it will apply until the end.
(I said Muhammad used the old pagan rituals that he made lawfull for muslims to practise.)
Answer: The ritual performed by the Prophet Muhammad was also carried out by the Prophets before.
Please consider the following verses !
Psalm 138:2 "I want to bow down to Your holy temple and praise Your name, because of Your love and because of Your faithfulness; for You make Your name and Your promise above all things."
Does that verse mean that the Prophet David worshiped the Kaaba ? Not! he worshiped Allah, although facing the Kaaba.
Ezekiel 44: 4. "Then He carried me through the north gate to the front of the temple; I see, truly, God's house full of God's glory, so I bow down."
Does that verse mean that the prophet Ezekiel worshiped the Temple? Not! he worshiped Allah, although facing the Qibla.
Mark 14:33 "And He took Peter, James and John with him. He was very scared and terrified, Mark 14:34 then he said to them: "My heart is very sad, as if I want to die. Stay here and keep watch." Mark 14:35 "He advanced a little, prostrate down on the ground and prayed that, if possible, that moment then from him."
THESE VERSES PROVE THAT JESUS ALSO DOING SALAH.
Do you also do it like Jesus?
Look carefully at the following verse.
Matthew 15: 8 "This nation glorifies Me (Allah) with its lips, even though its heart is far from Me. Matthew 15: 9 "It is useless to worship Me, while the teachings they teach are human commands."
CAN YOU TAKE THE TRUE MEANING FROM THAT VERSES ?
(Who was the Apostles before Jesus there was no Apostles before Jesus and he was only one who could ordained Apostles not like Muhammad who apointed himself as Allah's false Apostle.)
Answer: The Apostles before Jesus included: Noah, Ibrahim, Moses, and others.
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There was no Kabaa in Ezekiel's time and Dawid's time you changed the words of the bible so it can fits the Quran Not even Abrahaham or Ismail build the Kabaa like some Muslims who changed the history to ligalise islam. Psalm 138:2 "I want to bow down to Your holy temple and praise Your name, because of Your love and because of Your faithfulness; for You make Your name and Your promise above all things."
Does that verse mean that the Prophet David worshiped the Kaaba ? Not! he worshiped Allah, although facing the Kaaba.
Dawid did not worship the Allah of Muhammad.
Ezekiel 44: 4. "Then He carried me through the north gate to the front of the temple; I see, truly, God's house full of God's glory, so I bow down."
Does that verse mean that the prophet Ezekiel worshiped the Temple? Not! he worshiped Allah, although facing the Qibla.( Kabaa) Then the Jews must also be called Muslsims sorry why did Muhammad expelled all the Jews from Arabia cause they did not worship the same God as the muslims did.
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(There was no Kabaa in Ezekiel's time and Dawid's time you changed the words of the bible so it can fits the Quran.)
Answer: The first form of Kabaa was not like now, but all the Prophets knew that the Kabaa had existed since the Prophet Adam.
I didn't change the words of the bible, you'd better ask to the Scribes why they change it.
(Not even Abrahaham or Ismail build the Kabaa like some Muslims who changed the history to ligalise islam.)
Answer: Yes, the Prophet Ibrahim and his son (Ismail) had rebuilt the Kabaa so that it looked like now.
(Dawid did not worship the Allah of Muhammad.)
Answer: So who is his God ? Jesus ? No.., at that time Jesus wasn't born.
(Then the Jews must also be called Muslsims sorry why did Muhammad expelled all the Jews from Arabia cause they did not worship the same God as the muslims did.)
Answer: The word of Muslims are from Arabic which means to surrender to one God and He is not similar to His creatures. So anyone who surrenders to one God and believes that God is not similar to His creatures means Muslims (in Arabic), it does not mean the language is the same as the language of the Prophets before the Prophet Muhammad.
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Okay Adam build the Kabaa for who?
Who are all the prophets who knew about the Kabaa since Adam's time?
If Adam build the Kabaa so why then must Abraham and Ismail build the Kabaa, was Mecca populated by the time of Abraham. If Abraham and Ismail build the Kabaa where did they got bricks and cement from maybe from the local Arabs that time.
The first form of Kabaa was not like now, but all the Prophets knew that the Kabaa had existed since the Prophet Adam.(Adam was not prophet) What was the first form of look a like.
I have asked you why did Muhammad expelled all the jews from Arabia?
Your answer Muslim means surrender.
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(Okay Adam build the Kabaa for who?)
Answer: For all Muslims throughout the world so that when praying is recommended to face the Kaaba it doesn't mean that Muslims worship the Kaaba, but it is a symbol established by Allah for the orientation of the Muslims. Apart from that, it is also a symbol of the unity of the Islamic ummah when praying is facing towards the same point.
(Who are all the prophets who knew about the Kabaa since Adam's time?)
The Prophet Abraham, Ishmael (they rebuilt it), David, Ezekiel, Daniel, and others. I got this information from the Gospel, is it possible that the Gospel you have is not the same with mine ? Why do you believe the Gospel but you don't know it yourself ?
(If Adam build the Kabaa so why then must Abraham and Ismail build the Kabaa, was Mecca populated by the time of Abraham. If Abraham and Ismail build the Kabaa where did they got bricks and cement from maybe from the local Arabs that time.) Answer: The Prophet Adam did not build the Kaaba but Allah made it exist there. So, the previous Kaaba were not as we can see now. If you ask for about brick and cement, why don't you also ask for about wood, cloth etc. Sorry, I'm not a building material trader. I hope every one here knows what the meaning is.
(The first form of Kabaa was not like now, but all the Prophets knew that the Kabaa had existed since the Prophet Adam.) (Adam was not prophet) What was the first form of look a like.)
Answer: Sorry I don't live in the time of the Prophet Adam.
(I have asked you why did Muhammad expelled all the jews from Arabia?) (Your answer Muslim means surrender.)
Answer: I answer 'Muslim' means surrender not for Muhammad expelled all the jews from Arabia, but explaining that whoever the people worship only to one God and He is not as the same as His creatures is Muslim.
Then the reasons why the Prophet Muhammad expelled the Jews from Arabia, including:
1. At that time the Jews violated their agreement with the Prophet Muhammad that they wouldn't interfere and take offensive actions against Muslims.
2. Jews attempted assassination of Prophet Muhammad etc.
If I see from the verses, hadith, history that you posted on this forum, it seems more likely known who you really are.
Well.., then I will ask you which one is right between the two verses in the Gospel below ?
(........,....) "Then Gad came to David, telling him by saying, 'Will you be struck by SEVEN YEARS of famine in your land? or will you flee for three months before your opponents, while they pursue you?
And
(........,....) Then Gad came to David, he said to him, thus saith the Lord: Thou shalt choose. THREE YEARS of starvation or three months you fled before your opponents, while your enemy's sword followed you?
Which one is correct SEVEN YEARS or THREE YEARS ?
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(Okay Adam build the Kabaa for who?)
Answer: For all Muslims throughout the world so that when praying is recommended to face the Kaaba it doesn't mean that Muslims worship the Kaaba, but it is a symbol established by Allah for the orientation of the Muslims. Apart from that, it is also a symbol of the unity of the Islamic ummah when praying is facing towards the same point.
There was no muslims in Adam's time lie no 1 lie no 2 neither Adam or Abrham or Ismail bulid the Kabaa that was to twist the history of Islam to legalise an iligal cult of Muhammad to fit Islam also in the picture as a so called Abrahamic religeon Isreal was not religeon of Abraham but his children.
The pagans build the Kabaa who worshipped the moon god Allah now muslims worship the same god.
In the time of Abraham there was no Mecca so I don't know who invented this lie Abraham build the Kabaa the so called house Allah. The pagans build it and Muhammad take over ownership of the Kabaa and make pagan holy shrine a Muslim holy shrine to ensure all the cashflow cme into his pockets. |
(There was no muslims in Adam's time)
Answer: I have explained what is the meaning of Muslim ?, Because the Prophet Muhammad is an Arabic, then using Arabic, it's impossible to use Chinese, etc. (make sense)
What about the present Gospel, does it use the language used by Jesus ?
Do you know who is the Prophet Adam's God ? Then to whom did he surrender?
(lie no 1 lie no 2 neither Adam or Abrham or Ismail bulid the Kabaa that was to twist the history of Islam to legalise an iligal cult of Muhammad to fit Islam also in the picture as a so called Abrahamic religeon Isreal was not religeon of Abraham but his children.)
Answer: It's up to your understanding like what it is, but for Muslims that the Kaaba was rebuilt by Prophet Ibrahim and Ismail.
Do you know who the God of Abraham and Ishmael is ? Do you find them in the Gospels that you have?
(The pagans build the Kabaa who worshipped the moon god Allah now muslims worship the same god.)
Answer: No, Muslims do not worship the moon god like pagans, but worship to Allah who created everything in this universe.
(In the time of Abraham there was no Mecca so I don't know who invented this lie Abraham build the Kabaa the so called house Allah.)
Answer: Not only Mecca, even the Capital of my Country has also changed its name.
(The pagans build it and Muhammad take over ownership of the Kabaa and make pagan holy shrine a Muslim holy shrine to ensure all the cashflow cme into his pockets.)
Answer: I have already mentioned the name Baitul Makmur in this forum, and the Kaaba has something related with the Baitul Makmur. So, there is absolutely not the same between the pagans did and what Muslims do.
So what your answer about this ?
(........,....) "Then Gad came to David, telling him by saying, 'Will you be struck by SEVEN YEARS of famine in your land? or will you flee for three months before your opponents, while they pursue you?
And
(........,....) Then Gad came to David, he said to him, thus saith the Lord: Thou shalt choose. THREE YEARS of starvation or three months you fled before your opponents, while your enemy's sword followed you?
Which one is correct SEVEN YEARS or THREE YEARS ?
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Asep Why didn't Jibrill correct this error in the Quran?
1 Chronicles 21:12
12 either lthree years of famine, or three months of
devastation by your foes while the sword of your enemies overtakes you, or else
three days of the sword of the Lord, pestilence on the land, with the angel of
the Lord destroying throughout all the territory of Israel.’ Now decide what
answer I shall return to him who sent me.”
2 Samuel 24:13
13 So Gad came to David and told him, and said to him,
“Shall pthree6 years of famine come to you in your land? Or will you flee three
months before your foes while they pursue you? Or shall there be three days’
pestilence in your land? Now consider, and decide what answer I shall return to
him who sent me.”
The important thing to realize is that regardless of which
solution we choose, the result is the same. The accusation of contradiction
evaporates—all without declaring the text in error. In conclusion, these
Scriptures not only are compatible, but also work together to provide
additional details on this particular event. |
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Peace maker wrote:
AsepWhy didn't Jibrill correct this error in the Quran?
1 Chronicles 21:12
12 either lthree years of famine, or three months of
devastation by your foes while the sword of your enemies overtakes you, or else
three days of the sword of the Lord, pestilence on the land, with the angel of
the Lord destroying throughout all the territory of Israel.’ Now decide what
answer I shall return to him who sent me.”
2 Samuel 24:13
13 So Gad came to David and told him, and said to him,
“Shall pthree6 years of famine come to you in your land? Or will you flee three
months before your foes while they pursue you? Or shall there be three days’
pestilence in your land? Now consider, and decide what answer I shall return to
him who sent me.”
The important thing to realize is that regardless of which
solution we choose, the result is the same. The accusation of contradiction
evaporates—all without declaring the text in error. In conclusion, these
Scriptures not only are compatible, but also work together to provide
additional details on this particular event. |
(Why didn't Jibrill correct this error in the Quran?)
Gabriel will not change it in the Quran because it's the fault of humans who have dared to change the words of God in the Gospels. Only God will give punishment to them.
(1 Chronicles 21:12
12 either lthree years of famine, or three months of devastation by your foes while the sword of your enemies overtakes you, or else three days of the sword of the Lord, pestilence on the land, with the angel of the Lord destroying throughout all the territory of Israel.’ Now decide what answer I shall return to him who sent me.”)
2 Samuel 24:13
(13 So Gad came to David and told him, and said to him, “Shall pthree6 years of famine come to you in your land? Or will you flee three months before your foes while they pursue you? Or shall there be three days’ pestilence in your land? Now consider, and decide what answer I shall return to him who sent me.”)
(The important thing to realize is that regardless of which solution we choose, the result is the same. The accusation of contradiction evaporates—all without declaring the text in error. In conclusion, these Scriptures not only are compatible, but also work together to provide additional details on this particular event.)
Then what about people who are good at using their minds if there's a holy book which are not the same content one of another ? This shows that a book has been changed by human hands, while the original language of the book (as a reference) has been gone since 325 AD.
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Posted: 22 February 2020 at 7:10pm |
asep garutea wrote:
Peace maker wrote:
AsepWhy didn't Jibrill correct this error in the Quran?
1 Chronicles 21:12
12 either lthree years of famine, or three months of
devastation by your foes while the sword of your enemies overtakes you, or else
three days of the sword of the Lord, pestilence on the land, with the angel of
the Lord destroying throughout all the territory of Israel.’ Now decide what
answer I shall return to him who sent me.”
2 Samuel 24:13
13 So Gad came to David and told him, and said to him,
“Shall pthree6 years of famine come to you in your land? Or will you flee three
months before your foes while they pursue you? Or shall there be three days’
pestilence in your land? Now consider, and decide what answer I shall return to
him who sent me.”
The important thing to realize is that regardless of which
solution we choose, the result is the same. The accusation of contradiction
evaporates—all without declaring the text in error. In conclusion, these
Scriptures not only are compatible, but also work together to provide
additional details on this particular event. |
(Why didn't Jibrill correct this error in the Quran?)
Gabriel will not change it in the Quran because it's the fault of humans who have dared to change the words of God in the Gospels. Only God will give punishment to them.
(1 Chronicles 21:12
12 either lthree years of famine, or three months of devastation by your foes while the sword of your enemies overtakes you, or else three days of the sword of the Lord, pestilence on the land, with the angel of the Lord destroying throughout all the territory of Israel.’ Now decide what answer I shall return to him who sent me.”)
2 Samuel 24:13
(13 So Gad came to David and told him, and said to him, “Shall pthree6 years of famine come to you in your land? Or will you flee three months before your foes while they pursue you? Or shall there be three days’ pestilence in your land? Now consider, and decide what answer I shall return to him who sent me.”)
(The important thing to realize is that regardless of which solution we choose, the result is the same. The accusation of contradiction evaporates—all without declaring the text in error. In conclusion, these Scriptures not only are compatible, but also work together to provide additional details on this particular event.)
Then what about people who are good at using their minds if there's a holy book which are not the same content one of another ? This shows that a book has been changed by human hands, while the original language of the book (as a reference) has been gone since 325 AD.
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The Quran was a deliberate change of God's word by Muhammad by his full conscious by knowing exactly what he was doing in order to decieve the poor Arabs into his lions nests.
God have said numerous times do not change my word thats exactly what Muhammad did he did not do it accident he was was fully aware what he did, now the muslims accuses the jews and christians changing the wor of God.
Now read this to came to the full wisdom and knowledge. Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today
and forever.
James 1:17 Every good
and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly
lights, who does not change like shifting shadows.
“I will not violate my covenant or alter the word that went
forth from my lips.” Psalm 89:34
“And now I am about to go the way of all the earth, and you
know in your hearts and souls, all of you, that not one word has failed of all
the good things that the Lord your God promised concerning you. All have come
to pass for you; not one of them has failed.” Joshua 23:14
Dont Change Gods Word
Revelation 22:18-19 I warn everyone who hears the words of
the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the
plagues described in this book, and if anyone takes away from the words of the
book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in
the holy city, which are described in this book.
Proverbs 30:5-6 Every word of God proves true; he is a
shield to those who take refuge in him. Do not add to his words, lest he rebuke
you and you be found a liar.
Malachi 3:6“For I the Lord do not change; therefore you, O
children of Jacob, are not consumed.
Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is living and active,
sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of
spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of
the heart.
Isaiah 40:8 The grass withers, the flower fades, but the
word of our God will stand forever.
Deuteronomy 4:2 You shall not add to the word
that I command you, nor take from it, that you may keep the commandments of the
Lord your God that I command you.
So the Quran was a total disaster and failure of Muhammad.
Gabriel is always in the precence of God and will no gave a lie to Muhammad so this was also a lie of Muhammad Gabriel never spoke to Muhammad.
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