What Quran tells about Religion of Ibraham |
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ajzhyder
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Not withstanding what labels they put on themselves, when the hear the truth they would say that we believe in it and have already been submitter to Allah's will 28:53 وَإِذَا يُتْلَىٰ عَلَيْهِمْ قَالُوا آمَنَّا بِهِ إِنَّهُ الْحَقُّ مِن رَّبِّنَا إِنَّا كُنَّا مِن قَبْلِهِ مُسْلِمِينَ 28:53 And when it is recited to them, they say. "We believe therein, for it is the Truth from our Lord. indeed we have been Muslims (bowing to Allah's Will) from before this. 3:52 فَلَمَّا �£َحَسَّ عِيسَىٰ مِنْهُمُ الْكُفْرَ قَالَ مَنْ �£َنصَارِي إِلَى اللَّهِ ۖ قَالَ الْحَوَارِيُّونَ نَحْنُ �£َنصَارُ اللَّهِ آمَنَّا بِاللَّهِ وَاشْهَدْ بِ�£َنَّا مُسْلِمُونَ 3:52 When ESSA(Jesus) realized unbelief on their part he said "who will be my helpers to God". Said the companions (disciples). "we are God`s helpers. We believe In God, and you bear witness that we are MUSLIMS(submitters)". 3:84 Say we believe in Allah and what is revealed on us and what was revealed on Ibraheem and Ismail and Ishaq and Yaqoob and tribes and what was given to Moosa, Essa and the prophets is from their Lord. We do not make distinction between anyone from it and for Him we are Muslims / submitters.
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JerryMyers
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Well, God DID NOT send different prophets with different religions. All prophets carried the same basic fundamental message from Him – the Lord, your God, is ONE and submit to His Will. Religions originated from man’s differing understanding of who God is. It’s like the story of the six blind men and the elephant – one said the elephant is like a wall because he was touching the body of the elephant, the other one said the elephant is like a leaf because he was touching the ear of the elephant, still the other one said the elephant is like a rope because he was holding the tail of the elephant and so on and yet, these 6 blind men are describing the one and same elephant. Only those who are not blind can see the true description of the elephant. Likewise, only those who are ‘not blind’ can truly ‘see’ the teachings of the prophets and understand who God is and what He expects out of us. |
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JerryMyers
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He don't have to hear from them – he knows those who believe in the true oneness of God and do/submit to the Will of God are Muslims. |
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Tim the plumber
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Do you consider the Aztec religion to be along the same lines as your religion at all? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztec_religion
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ajzhyder
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Al Masihi
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Oneness of God is alright, but which god, even pagans can be monotheistic doesn’t necessarily make it right. Muslims do not follow the God of Abraham, Muslims by definition submit to the will of Allah (an Arab god of Pagan origins) and to his prophet Mohammed. Please tell me where any of the prophets described the word Islam which transcribes to the Hebrew word האסלאם. Anyone can claim to submit to any god, by that definition Mani and Bahá'u'lláh are also Islamic prophets.
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ajzhyder
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God is the creator of the Universe and the sustainer of it. The God who Muslims serve, is definitely the God of Abraham. Had it not been so, in Quran, God would not have named His religion, ‘the religion of Abraham’. See link to post on below site: In Quran, we come to know about the God who created the Heavens
and Earth and He put every thing in there for sustenance of his creations. He
sent His Prophets along with His Book for the guidance of mankind. He sent
Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, David, Solomon, Job, Joseph, Moses, and Aaron,
Zakariya, John, Jesus and Elias, Isma'il , Elisha, Jonas, and Lot and others. (6:81-88).
Those people who received the message of God and understood it, will be judged
by Him and will be held accountable for their deeds in the world. There could be a lot of difference between perception and
reality about God and Mohammad. If we assume that
Quran was written by Mohammad instead of being revealed from God , then main
purpose of Mohammad should have been to obtain glory for himself by
pretending a prophet of God. However, we find in reading the Quran
that the focus is on God alone, not on Mohammad. Mohammad is mentioned even far
less times in Quran than other messengers e.g Mooses, Abraham and Jesus.
Name of Mohammad is mentioned only a miniscule amount of
time. Had Mohammad been the personality type that the people believe
him to be and he be after false glory, he would have mentioned himself the most
in Quran. Instead we find word Mohammad mentioned only 4 times in Quran
and word Ahmed as 1 time. |
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JerryMyers
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Pagans are not monotheistic, pagans are polytheistic.
Muslims do not submit to the will of the Prophet, Muslims only submit to the Will of God Almighty. In contrast, altho’ they may not admit it, Christians do not submit to the Will of God but, they submit to the will of Jesus Christ whom they claim to be equal to God Himself. I suggest you stop reading anti-Islamic materials and read the Quran instead to understand Islam, just as I would advise anyone to read the Bible to understand Christianity. Before accusing other faiths of paganism, you should google your own Christianity faith relationship with paganism first.
As I have said, the word or the name is not important, but, what the word or name represent does. Again, by definition, Islam means total submission to the Will of God Almighty and a Muslim, by definition, is one who do and submit to the Will of God. The terms 'Islam' and 'Muslim' might not have existed in the times of Jesus, but do you think Jesus did not do and submit to the Will of God ??
Mani and Bahá'u'lláh are NOT Islamic prophets. Again, you should read the Quran first before making such statements. Do you even understand what true Oneness of God means ?? I can tell you now, a ‘3-in-1’ God IS NOT the definition of true Oneness of God. |
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