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yandex 
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In the Quranic paradise, God is promising full breasted
virgins, pearly young boys, fruit, honey, milk, wine, clean water, gold
bracelet, fine Persian silk (istabraq), mansion, couch, chicken meat, ginger
ale & fine weather. (Note: Istabraq is a luxury cloth of ancient time
from Iran, its like God promising me a branded cloth e.g Gucci today)
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DavidC
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Posted: 24 May 2018 at 6:11am |
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DavidC
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Posted: 24 May 2018 at 6:13am |
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Yandex: reference?
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yandex
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Posted: 24 May 2018 at 8:43pm |
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Allah hath
promised to Believers, men and women, gardens under which rivers flow, to dwell
therein, and beautiful mansions in
gardens of everlasting bliss. But the greatest bliss is the good pleasure of
Allah: that is the supreme felicity (Quran 9 72)
For them will be Gardens of Eternity; beneath them rivers will flow; they will be adorned therein with bracelets of gold, and they will wear green garments of fine silk ( transliteration: Istabraq) and heavy brocade: They will recline therein on raised thrones. How good the recompense! How beautiful a couch to recline on! (Qur'an 18:31) Allah will admit those who believe and work righteous deeds, to Gardens beneath which rivers flow: they shall be adorned therein with bracelets of gold and pearls; and their garments there will be of silk. (Qur'an 22:23)
(Here is) a Parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised: in it are rivers of water incorruptible; rivers of milk of which the taste never changes; rivers of wine, a joy to those who drink; and rivers of honey pure and clear. In it there are for them all kinds of fruits; and Grace from their Lord. (Can those in such Bliss) be compared to such as shall dwell for ever in the Fire, and be given, to drink, boiling water, so that it cuts up their bowels (to pieces)? (Qur'an 47:15) Round about them will serve, (devoted) to them, young male servants (handsome) as Pearls well-guarded. (Qur'an 52:24) In them will be (Maidens), chaste, restraining their glances, whom no man or Jinn before them has touched;- (Qur'an 55:56) And full-breasted [companions] of equal age (Quran 78 33) (They will be) on Thrones encrusted (with gold and precious stones), Reclining on them, facing each other. Round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness), With goblets, (shining) beakers, and cups (filled) out of clear-flowing fountains: No after-ache will they receive therefrom, nor will they suffer intoxication: And with fruits, any that they may select: (21)And the flesh of fowls, any that they may desire. And (there will be) Companions with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes,- Like unto Pearls well-guarded. (Qur'an 56:15-23) And because they were patient and constant, He will reward them with a Garden and (garments of) silk. (13)Reclining in the (Garden) on raised thrones, they will see there neither the sun's (excessive heat) nor (the moon's) excessive cold. And the shades of the (Garden) will come low over them, and the bunches (of fruit), there, will hang low in humility. And amongst them will be passed round vessels of silver and goblets of crystal,- Crystal-clear, made of silver: they will determine the measure thereof (according to their wishes). And they will be given to drink there of a Cup (of Wine) mixed with Zanjabil (ginger),- A fountain there, called Salsabil. And round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness): If thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered Pearls. (Qur'an 76:12-19) |
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DavidC
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Posted: 25 May 2018 at 5:36am |
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So this is a parable and not to be taken literally.
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airmano
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Posted: 25 May 2018 at 11:27pm |
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@DavidC
What makes you think so ? Airmano
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The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses (Albert Einstein 1954, in his "Gods Letter")
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DavidC
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Posted: 27 May 2018 at 6:16am |
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It is plainly stated in the text: (Here is) a Parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised: in it are rivers of water incorruptible; rivers of milk of which the taste never changes; rivers of wine, a joy to those who drink; and rivers of honey pure and clear. In it there are for them all kinds of fruits; and Grace from their Lord. (Can those in such Bliss) be compared to such as shall dwell for ever in the Fire, and be given, to drink, boiling water, so that it cuts up their bowels (to pieces)? (Qur'an 47:15) It all appears to be the same pericope, but I am sure an Islamic scholar can provide an authoritative answer. |
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Posted: 27 May 2018 at 7:29pm |
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Ya sure, the parable turkey etc. Seems to me like an enticement to the 7th century desert Bedoins by tempting them with wealth, wine & wo(men) to believe in Allah. |
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