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"This way of thinking absolutely wrong with the concept of holy spitit in Christianity. According to the bible, the holy spirit is supposed to be unvisible thing—the power of God. It's not a new creature, but it's a part of God. The holy spirit and God are one. We can say, it's the spirit of God."

If the holy spirit and God are one, and they are, how did Allah 'breath into humanity' from his soul? Into Adam when he created him? We are alive and our life and soul - our breathing - comes from God. It says "its the spirit OF God". I understand the Holy Spirit in my view, Gabriel, is a solider OF Allah. A messenger to the Prophets and you might know. Allah is the first cause, the everlasting, and we, including Gabriel are his causes (effects) and Allah will be the last when everyone are gone.
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Originally posted by Lunarious Lunarious wrote:

"This way of thinking absolutely wrong with the concept of holy spitit in Christianity. According to the bible, the holy spirit is supposed to be unvisible thing—the power of God. It's not a new creature, but it's a part of God. The holy spirit and God are one. We can say, it's the spirit of God."

If the holy spirit and God are one, and they are, how did Allah 'breath into humanity' from his soul? Into Adam when he created him? We are alive and our life and soul - our breathing - comes from God. It says "its the spirit OF God". I understand the Holy Spirit in my view, Gabriel, is a solider OF Allah. A messenger to the Prophets and you might know. Allah is the first cause, the everlasting, and we, including Gabriel are his causes (effects) and Allah will be the last when everyone are gone.

yes ... I agree with you, because all creatures created by God are in the sea of His power. God is One and there is nothing like Him, etc. (Quran 112: 1-4)
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Originally posted by Tim the plumber Tim the plumber wrote:

Originally posted by asep garut asep garut wrote:

Essential truths only belong to Allah (God), while the truth from humans is relative, it can be true, or it can be wrong (need improvement). Human undergoes a process of mental and spiritual evolution in the direction of the ultimate perfection, therefore automatically humans need guidance to guide the process of their mental and spiritual evolution.

Humans are commanded to use the power of thought to be used in thinking about truth including the development of science and spirit in a sustainable manner. Example:

The discovery of Noah's ark by archaeologists, this proves that Allah provides information in the Qur'an while humans who must be able to prove it. And if humans have been able to prove it, then it is not a fairy tale but a fact of reality from the power of Allah that has no doubt.



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Noah's Arc has not been found.

Noah's Arc could not have been built. It is too big for a wooden ship, it would have broken up.

There was never a world flood. The total lack of the unavoidable mass of evidence that such an event would leave behind means that there was never such an event. Every valley in the world would look radically different if there had been sucha thing ever.

And it was said: ‘O earth! Swallow up your water, and O sky! Withhold (your rain)’ And the water was made to subside and the Decree (of Allah) was fulfilled (i.e. the destruction of the people of Noah. And it (the ship) rested on (Mount) Judi, and it was said: ‘Away with the people who are Zalimun (wrong-doers)!” (Quran 11:44)

An early photo shoot by the United States Air Force in 1949 about the presence of strange object on Mount Ararat-Turkey with a height of 14,000 feet.




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The next photo shoots was carried out by United State IKONOS Flight in 1999-2000 about alleged snow-covered boats on Ararat Mountain.
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Originally posted by Peace maker Peace maker wrote:

Originally posted by asep garut asep garut wrote:

Essential truths only belong to Allah (God), while the truth from humans is relative, it can be true, or it can be wrong (need improvement). Human undergoes a process of mental and spiritual evolution in the direction of the ultimate perfection, therefore automatically humans need guidance to guide the process of their mental and spiritual evolution.

Humans are commanded to use the power of thought to be used in thinking about truth including the development of science and spirit in a sustainable manner. Example:

The discovery of Noah's ark by archaeologists, this proves that Allah provides information in the Qur'an while humans who must be able to prove it. And if humans have been able to prove it, then it is not a fairy tale but a fact of reality from the power of Allah that has no doubt.


First of all Allah did instruct Noah to build the Ark.
Allah did not provide the information in the Quran.

“And construct the ship under Our Eyes and with Our Revelation, and call not upon Me on behalf of those who did wrong, they are surely to be drowned.” – (Quran 11:37)


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