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Muslims believe that Prophet Muhammad was the last prophet and the Quran was the last testament.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote akthus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 March 2018 at 1:12am
The key point is belief. Muslims believe but can not prove that Muhammad was a prophet.
Neither can Muslims prove that the Koran is the word of God because the only person who claims it was was Muhammad.
It is all circular in reference.
Everybody is entitled to believe what they want and practice what they want.
My only objection is that when it comes to Muslim clerics pushing stories and opinions as fact when there is no evidence to back it up.
I do not believe Muhammad was a prophet for this reason :
When he first encountered the entity he saw in the cave there was no mention that it was an angel. He actually thought he was possessed by a demon.
Also God never protected him when he was poisoned and died of it.

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Faith is a domain of belief. Muslims are the only people in the three monotheistic religions whose early is preserved in a manner that can be authenticated.
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Apparently, there is a group of people who are here to prove that Islam is anti  Christ or a false religion. There is nothing new. Such people have always existed and would always exist. They would pretend anything to make their point. The important thing is not to engage with them in any heated discussion. They are here for a purpoe. They want Muslims to provoke and call names of their religious beliefs and leaders.
We are not in the business of proving anyone false. We are here to present our point of view without any claims. People themselves would realize the truth on the basis of facts.
So if my Muslim brothers and sisters ever feel that they are verbally abused or some people are cursing Islam or trying to prove it wrong, be assured that they cannot do much besides what they are doing. If your faith is strong,  no one can shake you.
These are the people about whom wise people always say that they are quick to raise fingers at others without looking at their own self. People might attribute it to Jesus, but it was added in the Biblical literature some 400 to 800 years after the Jesus.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DavidC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 March 2018 at 11:36am
I am a Christian and agree with Dr. Aslam's attitude. The purpose of this board is to provide Islamic education, not to be a outlet for polemics. Christians are welcome guests, but the guest/host relationship should always be respected. Imagine yourself pouring tea for your fellow board members when posting.

There has always been a policy here to include scriptural references whenever possible. New members please take notice.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tim the plumber Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 March 2018 at 11:40am
Originally posted by Dr. Aslam Dr. Aslam wrote:

Apparently, there is a group of people who are here to prove that Islam is anti  Christ or a false religion. There is nothing new. Such people have always existed and would always exist. They would pretend anything to make their point. The important thing is not to engage with them in any heated discussion. They are here for a purpoe. They want Muslims to provoke and call names of their religious beliefs and leaders.
We are not in the business of proving anyone false. We are here to present our point of view without any claims. People themselves would realize the truth on the basis of facts.
So if my Muslim brothers and sisters ever feel that they are verbally abused or some people are cursing Islam or trying to prove it wrong, be assured that they cannot do much besides what they are doing. If your faith is strong,  no one can shake you.
These are the people about whom wise people always say that they are quick to raise fingers at others without looking at their own self. People might attribute it to Jesus, but it was added in the Biblical literature some 400 to 800 years after the Jesus.


I presume I am not in that group as I have no faith in anything.

Quote We are not in the business of proving anyone false. We are here to present our point of view without any claims. People themselves would realize the truth on the basis of facts.


1, If you are not here to demonstrate that my lack of faith in any god is false/wrong/unimformed why have any sort of Islam for none-Muslims section etc?

2, How do you present a view without making any claims? Do you not claim that your God is real? Surely you have miss-written this.

3, Please present facts to support your views. If they are wrong don't be surprised when you are told so. We all get things worng and the internet is the best tool ever for quickly showing this. It produces a rough an tumble style of debate.

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Well we should try to have an open mind to understand anything. We should be respectful without calling names and if there is a dispute in facts or in opinion we should recognize it and move forward.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tim the plumber Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 March 2018 at 12:15pm
Originally posted by Dr. Aslam Dr. Aslam wrote:

Well we should try to have an open mind to understand anything. We should be respectful without calling names and if there is a dispute in facts or in opinion we should recognize it and move forward.



You are on the internet my friend. Here you have come to find people who disagree with you. You have found some.

You may well not be used to people openly disagreeing with you. You may find that an affront. Especially when they can support their positions very clearly and effectively.

Welcome to the information age.

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