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    Posted: 05 March 2018 at 4:18am
What if you raise pigs in a clean environment and feed them with certified products along with constant full panel blood work and biopsies as for a few generations and provide them with with anti parasitic medication so they are not transferre there ailments to the young then Does this make this clean animal halal if not at all acceptable please answer


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The prohibition of pigs is a test for muslims, it's not because clean or not clean. So no mater what you do to it, the pigs is haram.
However we believe everything that God almighty prohibited for us, it's not good for us, even-though the current knowledge or current technology can not explain it yet.  So we believe avoiding this we will get some benefits.

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﴿سورة المائدة �£﴾ حُرِّمَتْ عَلَيْكُمُ الْمَيْتَةُ وَالدَّمُ وَلَحْمُ الْخِنْزِيرِ وَمَا �£ُهِلَّ لِغَيْرِ اللَّهِ بِهِ وَالْمُنْخَنِقَةُ وَالْمَوْقُوذَةُ وَالْمُتَرَدِّيَةُ وَالنَّطِيحَةُ وَمَا �£َكَلَ السَّبُعُ إِلَّا مَا ذَكَّيْتُمْ وَمَا ذُبِحَ عَلَى النُّصُبِ وَ�£َنْ تَسْتَقْسِمُوا بِالْ�£َزْلَامِ ۚ ذَٰلِكُمْ فِسْقٌ ۗ الْيَوْمَ يَئِسَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا مِنْ دِينِكُمْ فَلَا تَخْشَوْهُمْ وَاخْشَوْنِ ۚ الْيَوْمَ �£َكْمَلْتُ لَكُمْ دِينَكُمْ وَ�£َتْمَمْتُ عَلَيْكُمْ نِعْمَتِي وَرَضِيتُ لَكُمُ الْإِسْلَامَ دِينًا ۚ فَمَنِ اضْطُرَّ فِي مَخْمَصَةٍ غَيْرَ مُتَجَانِفٍ لِإِثْمٍ ۙ فَإِنَّ اللَّهَ غَفُورٌ رَحِيمٌ

[Quran 5:3] Prohibited for you are carrion, blood, the flesh of swine, and animals dedicated to other than Allah; also the flesh of animals strangled, killed violently, killed by a fall, gored to death, mangled by wild animals—except what you rescue, and animals sacrificed on altars; and the practice of drawing lots. For it is immoral. Today, those who disbelieve have despaired of your religion, so do not fear them, but fear Me. Today I have perfected your religion for you, and have completed My favor upon you, and have approved Islam as a religion for you. But whoever is compelled by hunger, with no intent of wrongdoing—Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.

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What religion is the pig sacred?
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Not sacred, but we don't allow to eat.
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"We are people who do not eat until we are hungry and do not eat to our fill." (Prophet Muhammad PBUH)

"1/3 of your stomach for food, 1/3 for water, 1/3 for air"
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Originally posted by NABA NABA wrote:

﴿سورة المائدة �£﴾ حُرِّمَتْ عَلَيْكُمُ الْمَيْتَةُ وَالدَّمُ وَلَحْمُ الْخِنْزِيرِ وَمَا �£ُهِلَّ لِغَيْرِ اللَّهِ بِهِ وَالْمُنْخَنِقَةُ وَالْمَوْقُوذَةُ وَالْمُتَرَدِّيَةُ وَالنَّطِيحَةُ وَمَا �£َكَلَ السَّبُعُ إِلَّا مَا ذَكَّيْتُمْ وَمَا ذُبِحَ عَلَى النُّصُبِ وَ�£َنْ تَسْتَقْسِمُوا بِالْ�£َزْلَامِ ۚ ذَٰلِكُمْ فِسْقٌ ۗ الْيَوْمَ يَئِسَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا مِنْ دِينِكُمْ فَلَا تَخْشَوْهُمْ وَاخْشَوْنِ ۚ الْيَوْمَ �£َكْمَلْتُ لَكُمْ دِينَكُمْ وَ�£َتْمَمْتُ عَلَيْكُمْ نِعْمَتِي وَرَضِيتُ لَكُمُ الْإِسْلَامَ دِينًا ۚ فَمَنِ اضْطُرَّ فِي مَخْمَصَةٍ غَيْرَ مُتَجَانِفٍ لِإِثْمٍ ۙ فَإِنَّ اللَّهَ غَفُورٌ رَحِيمٌ

[Quran 5:3] Prohibited for you are carrion, blood, the flesh of swine, and animals dedicated to other than Allah; also the flesh of animals strangled, killed violently, killed by a fall, gored to death, mangled by wild animals—except what you rescue, and animals sacrificed on altars; and the practice of drawing lots. For it is immoral. Today, those who disbelieve have despaired of your religion, so do not fear them, but fear Me. Today I have perfected your religion for you, and have completed My favor upon you, and have approved Islam as a religion for you. But whoever is compelled by hunger, with no intent of wrongdoing—Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.

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This is interesting. There are several guesses for why pork and other foods are not allowed in Judaism. They are unhealthy in some way, they are known to eat dead persons, the restrictions provide a community touchpoint &c.

I am not muslim but 5:3 on first reading seems a bit diffuse. Taken in context with the rest of the holy code surrounding it the commonality seems to be that the animal be slaughtered deliberately and prayerfully and not a "lucky" kill.

Of course this is uneducated supposition, but the theme of prohibited food seems to be much deeper than not eating pork.
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Originally posted by Gameimake Gameimake wrote:

What religion is the pig sacred?

Ancient Egypt.
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