I have a question

airmano wrote: @asep And what I mean "preserved" is the content of the word of Allah, not the tools or the places where the words of Allah are written. Can you try to be more specific ? Allah has never "spoken" [a word] in a physical sense. So, could you try to define the terms: "content" and "word of Allah" more precisely ?  Thanks:  Airmano ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- @DebateDebate I always liked the story of the Surah on adultery  kept by Aisha(!) before it got eaten by a goat. (Ooups, too bad !) Never mind, something that is gone can at least not get corrupted anymore.

In every human being there is a soul, including the Prophet Muhammad, and one of the ways Allah conveys revelation to the Prophet Muhammad is by the way Allah speaks into his soul through the Angel Gabriel (42:51)

airmano wrote: @Asep When you open this link  on the Sanaa manuscript you'll find a list of differences. The Tashkent and Topkapi are written in Kufic writing, which is also not the case anymore. That there has never been a copy being made publicly accessible speaks also for itself ( I let you guess why !) Furthermore; Uthman burned deviating versions as it is also acknowledged in the Muslim world. So there must have been alternative forms. Do you think these alternative form were all written "by enemies from within" as Miaw likes to call them. Last not least: What do you really mean by "preserved" ? - Books differ by chemistry (wood and ink) and page formatting - The pronunciation (and writing) has changed over 1400 years - The interpretation of it is so disputed amongst Muslims that the wording "the message" becomes highly blurred if not outright meaningless. - Now you may still speculate about a "divine book in heaven" where all earthly versions are a bad copy of the original. (But frankly this is an old trick that the Mormons master equally well.) May be, but this doesn't make the preservation (on earth) less faulty. Airmano

At the time of the Prophet Muhammad was still alive, there were many companions of the Prophet who could read and write: Muawiyah. Yazid, Umar ibn Khathab, Uthman ibn Affan, Ali ibn Abi Talib, Abdullah ibn Mas'ud, Talha ibn Abdullah, Abu Ubaidah ibn Jarah, Hudzaifah ibn al-Yaman, Abu Hurairah, Abu al-Darda 'and Abu Musa al-Ash'ari. Uthman was one of the four closest friends and trusted by the Prophet Muhammad.

They wrote verses of the Qur'an in several tools such as date palms, stone plates, leaves, skin and bones, based on the reading as it is, according to the composition of the language as well as the words. The activity lasted from the time of the Qur'an down in Makkah for about 13 years, and at al-Madinah for about 10 years.

Every year the Angel Gabriel always comes to the Prophet to establish the reading and deeper understanding, and all the verses are always the Prophet convey and told the companions who he considers to have the qualities of Shiddiq (honest), Amanah (can be trusted), Tabligh (convey the truth), and Fathanah (intelligent), either one verse, two verses or more, and he read it exactly as Jibril taught, because Allah guarantees his unity in him as in His word: (Al-Qiyamah 75: 16-19).

16. Move not your tongue concerning the Qur’an to make haste therewith.

17. It is for Us to collect it and to give you (Muhammad) the ability to recite it (the Qur’an).

18. And when We have recited it to you through Gabriel, then follow its the Qur’an’s recital.

19. Then it is for Allah to make it clear to you.

And the Prophet Muhammad read all the verses to his friends (including Uthman) exactly as Gabriel taught.

The Uthman Caliph's initiative to bind the Qur'an to the writers' team for the Qur'an to be recorded by using Quraish is a historical fact that can not be denied, not a traditional explanation.

What the Caliph 'Uthman implies is that everything in this world will be damaged including the means by which the verses of the Qur'an are written, such as date palms, stone plates, leaves, etc.

Based on that thought, Uthman immediately ordered his members in the binding of the Qur'an to remember that all in this world will be "fana" (broken), he chose people who are really close to the Prophet Muhammad like Zaid bin Thabit, Abdullah bin Zubair, Sa 'id bin Al-Ash, and Abdul Rahman bin Hisham.

Al Hijr 15:9

“Verily, We, it is We who have sent down the Dhikr (Qur’an) and surely, We will guard it (from corruption)”

And what I mean "preserved" is the content of the word of Allah, not the tools or the places where the words of Allah are written.

Anyone can make a difference in both the Qur'anic and the translations, but for those who are included in Surah Al-Hijr 15:9 above, it will be able to distinguish between what is original and what is not.

Al Baqarah 2:269

“He grants "Hikmah" to whom He pleases, and he, to whom "Hikmah" is granted, is indeed granted abundant good. But none remember (will receive admonition) except men of understanding.”