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MIAW
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The 'opening of chest' here is not in the physical/literal sense; it simply means that Allah SWT guided them to accept the suggestion. The same idea is in these verses from Qur'an: [39:22]
[6:125]
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airmano
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I understood already, but apparently we have very different perceptions of what "proof" really means. Airmano
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The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses (Albert Einstein 1954, in his "Gods Letter")
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MIAW
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Airmano, I am not here to show you any 'proofs', or to prove anything to you. Also: No Muslim should have to (or try to) 'prove' anything to anybody. That is because 'presenting proofs and miracles' was all done by our Prophet Muhammad PBUH during his lifetime. You see... during Prophet Muhammad PBUH's life, he was questioned and thoroughly scrutinized by many people, from various walks of life (including high-ranking religious authorities), on many occasions. Among these people, the most inquisitive and detailed questioners were Jewish Rabbis... as they were extremely learned in terms of religion and other 'sciences'. You will find an example of one of these encounters here: http://https://abdurrahman.org/2014/01/27/jewsenmityjibril/ [if the link does not work, just copy and paste it in google] One of my favorite people among these questioners is a Jewish Rabbi who then accepted and embraced Islam upon hearing our Prophet's answers. His name was Abdullah ibn Salam. His story is told in the above link, as well as here: http://https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdullah_ibn_Salam [if the link does not work, just copy and paste it in google] Furthermore, Allah SWT has Told us in the Holy Qur'an about people who would not accept the Truth, no matter how many 'Proofs' you present them with: Qur'an [17:89]
This is why I am not here to show any proofs or prove anything, but (in my very limited capacity and knowledge) to help 'dispel' some of the misconceptions and address some misinformed accusations about Islam. MIAW Edited by MIAW - 08 March 2018 at 1:14pm |
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airmano
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Hm,
many surahs no answers. That Muhammad (sorry "Allah") was very good in describing how smashing believers and how dreadful disbelievers are is nothing new. Repeating this a hundred times doesn't make it more relevant though. But it would be really new if you could finally cite any surahs were Mohamed/Allah gave the explicit order to compile a book called Quran. Airmano
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Look at my 2nd post in the previous page of this thread, I have already answered this.
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So I think we can conclude that Allah never gave the explicit order to compile a book. That he pushed and "opened the heart of" Muhammad's successors to do so is laudable but doesn't take away the worrying point that they may have done it for quite different reasons. Airmano
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