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    Posted: 04 April 2006 at 4:18am

Trident,

Your post has been deleted due to your wordings. And you are warned to comply the forum guidelines. You are not here to learn anything. You are here only to create problems.

I am going to close this topic----Peacemaker

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 April 2006 at 10:13pm

Hi Trident,

You have to look the context of Hindu Scriptures. I don't know what level of knowledge you have about Vedic scriptures and Sanskrit language. If you are here only to refute the "point of view" related to this article (as I have seen you before at other places ), all our talks would be fruitless. Moreover, I don't believe in debate, nor do I engage in debate. I rather believe in interfaith dialogue. This forum "Islam for non-Muslims" is not even for interfaith dialogue as there is separate forum for that. You may, however, ask questions here. Allah guides those who sincerely learn. I hope that you would, therefore, apply sincerity in your search of truth.

1.      " This article claims that Muhammad = Kalki Avatar. Avatar means an incarnation of God. So Muhammad is an incarnation. Which God's incarnation is Muhammad? "


You are asking wrong question. Read the article again. It says, in the Puranas ( Hindu Scriptures ), it is stated that Kalki Avatar would be the last Messenger of God in this world. He would be for guidance of the whole world and all human beings. Kalki Avatar basically means here "THE GUIDE AND LEADER". This is another meaning of Avatar, its equivalent in English is Prophet. Therefore, don't use the meaning of Avatar as "incarnation of God" in this context, rather use the other meaning.
 
2.       " The article claims that Muhammad will be born in an isle, which is mentioned as the Arab region. Muhammad was indeed born in Arab, but isn't the Arabian region a peninsula?"

Peninsula or not, he was born in an Arab country, Arab region. One of the meanings of isle is also  "desert island". He was born in Mecca, Saudi Arabia. Most of that Arab land is desert area or desert region.

3.        "So Muslims accept only Allah as God. Here, Vishnu also means God. So are Vishnu & Allah the same person?"

According to Hinduism, the chracteristics of Vishnu is of eternal God who has preserving and protecting powers. Avtars of Vishnu appeared in the world either to correct some great evil or to effect some great good on earth. Of course, characteristics of Allah in Islam is different from that. Allah has 99 names. Out of those names, some of them correspond to the characteristics of Vishnu such as "Protector","'Everlasting","Avenger","Preserver" etc. We have no image of Allah as Muslims don't worship images or idols as Vishnu is worshipped in Hinduism. But, you are looking here equivalent or similar terms to get the message at two different places sent to the people thousands of years apart. You also have to keep in mind that books and practices lost their original message except Qur'an, but that is another topic.


Hope this helps.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 April 2006 at 10:16am

Some very important questions needing urgent answers:

1) This article claims that Muhammad = Kalki Avatar. Avatar means an incarnation of God. So Muhammad is an incarnation. Which God's incarnation is Muhammad?

2) The article claims that Muhammad will be born in an isle, which is mentioned as the Arab region. Muhammad was indeed born in Arab, but isn't the Arabian region a peninsula?

3) The article also claims that Muhammad's father is known as Vishnubhagat. Visnubhagat = Vishnu (God) + Bhagat (Slave). Also, Abdullah means servant of Allah. Vishnubhagat = Abdullah. So the article claims that the servant of Vishnu is the same as a servant of Allah.

God = Vishnu = Allah. So Muslims accept only Allah as God. Here, Vishnu also means God. So are Vishnu & Allah the same person?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 April 2006 at 10:30am

Assalamu Alaikum:

Very interesting article. I wonder how most of the Hindus are taking it?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 April 2006 at 12:54am
Assalamulaikum

I've heard this before..during my Religious Comparative class. It was a very interesting issue. I never thought that Hindu scriptures got these kind of statements.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 March 2006 at 9:51pm

Hi pauline35,

You are welcome! Since Prophet Muhammad ( pbuh ) is the last Messenger of Allah, his description can be found at so many places. I am glad that you liked it.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 March 2006 at 7:38am
There is only one reason which I could not understand is WHY THEY CHOSE ME? WHY..TELL ME WHY?

I joined this forum on 15 November 2005. Can anyone tell me before 15 November 2005, was it like now (I refer to many evangelists log in this forum)? Or is it after 15 November 2005, that is to say that more evangelists log in this forum? If that is after my joining, then I must be the jinx that have brought more evangelists into this forum.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 March 2006 at 7:32am
Dear Peacemaker,

Thank you for your updates. It is very strange that whilst I read the Bible (NT), I felt empty but when I read Prophet's biography and his words, I feel like sailing on the sea.

I do not know if Evangelists have been harrassing this forum for ages. However, I find that around the world and wherever I go, I could easily bump into one of them. Sometimes, I feel that TO BE SAFE, it is easy to just tell them that I am a Christian Evangelist too. To the extent, I needed to be in disguise as Christian Evangelist in order to stay away from their harrassment. This is certainly an act of hypocrite which I am aware of. Unfortunately, that is the only way out from the spot lights.   

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