Wants a proof that Quran is God's word

asep garut wrote:

DavidC wrote:

Praying for a blessed eid for you and all my forum friends, Asep. No hurry; I am always grateful for your generous contributions.

DavidC,

First
of all, I would like to thank you for your kindness towards us (Muslims Ummah),
and have been patient to wait. And here's the explanation from me, hopefully
will increase our knowledge in peeling or uncovering the meaning of reading in
the Qur'an.

In
the Qur'an, there are many verses whose meaning refers to the meaning of the
word 'corrupted', for example:

“...They change the words (of Allah)
from their (right) places and have abandoned a good part of the Message
that was sent to them. And you will not cease to discover deceit in them,
except a few of them. But forgive them and overlook (their misdeeds). Verily,
Allah loves good-doers.”
(5:13)

“Do
you (faithful believers) covet that they will believe in your religion inspite
of the fact that a party of them (Jewish Rabbis) used to hear the Word of Allah
(The Torah), then they used to change it knowingly after they
understood it ?” (2:75)

From
the 2 verses underline above, it shows a similarity of meaning from 'corrupt'.
And there are still other verses.

Here
is the interpretation of every syllable of surah Al Hijr 15: 9,

إِنَّا نَحْنُ نَزَّلْنَا الذِّكْرَ وَإِنَّا لَهُ
لَحَافِظُوْنَ

The
meaning of "We" in this word is referring to Allah (God) and the
Angel Gabriel, because the Qur'an was not handed down directly by Allah to
Prophet Muhammad, but through Angel Gabriel as intermediate between Allah and
Prophet Muhammad.

نَزَّلْنَا This is derived from the syllable of نْزَلْنَا اَ means : Sent it down.

الذِّكْرَ This is derived from the syllable of اَلذِّكْرَ means : The Qur’an, because one of the other names of the Qur'an is Adz-Dzikr
(Reminder).

إِنَّا means : Verily We, Surely We. The word إِنَّا
here is to express the word نَحْنُ
written before, and 'We' here can be meant Allah, angels and people who
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لَحَافِظُوْنَ This is derived from the syllable of اَلْحَافِيْظُ (Al-Hafiizhu) means : The All-Maintain, which
is to maintain the authenticity of the Qur'an, and here, besides Allah and
Angel, also those who know and understand the contents of the Qur'an, so that
if there is a single letter that changed from the Qur'an, it will soon be
detected or known.

And then the
assurance from Allah regarding the maintaining of the authenticity of the
Qur'an among others: * To avoid from all the efforts that will falsify it,

* The Qur'an
will be preserved until the apocalypse is imminent, in this case Allah will
take the Qur'an or will be omitted from this world when the apocalypse is very
close.

All this implies to oral corruption, non of the verses you state imply to the scriptures being physically corrupted. The early Muslims asked the people of the scripture to believe in the books they already had, however Muslims were abliged to believe in the incorruptible Injil and Torah that was in the possession of the people of the scripture. The early muslims believed that the Christians and Jews would distort words and purposely distort words out of their correct meaning and place. It was only later muslims likely with inspiration through the works of Ibn Hazm came to believe the Injil and Torah themselves were corrupt.