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Dear Saved,
Indeed, all Muslims are required to believe in the gospel because it is the word of God, but in this day, which one is true?, therefore, I ever propose to you "do I need to prove?" that each gospel is different one of another. Keep in mind that not all Muslims agree with the declaration of war against all unbelievers except as in the word of Allah 60: 8 where muslims are not forbidden to make good relationship in all matters without distinction of ethnic, nation, skin color, religion and so on, except they will change muslims aqidah and expel Muslims from their hometown like the Palestinians which are gradually their territory will annexed by Israel. In Islam, Jesus is not the only one who can save mankind, but all men who obediently follow the teachings of their Apostles will get salvation from Allah. If the Gospel said "The gospel states that there is no other name given under heaven whereby we might be saved but the name of Jesus Christ." This means that the Gospel of today invites you not to believe the other scriptures before the Gospel was revealed like the Psalms and the Torah. Is that right? Related to ISIS declaration issues, I personally do not agree with the ideology of ISIS, because not only declare war with non-Muslims but also ISIS fight and kill other Muslims. Regards, Asep |
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DavidC
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The Gospel is the good news that because of Jesus all mankind can have eternal life. This means everyone, including Muslims. The Gospel is the good news that Jesus opened up new dimensions in the relationship between God and mankind, not a written document.
The four biblical gospels are not "The Gospel". Those are only transcribed oral histories. 'Gospel' in the sense of the bible is a literary genre. In the Qu'ran, Jesus is the ultimate judge of all Muslims. I think the question for Muslims is "What is it about Jesus that the Qu'ran makes Jesus the final judge of Muslims instead of Muhammad?" |
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DavidC
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The Gospel is the good news that because of Jesus all mankind can have eternal life. This means everyone, including Muslims. The Gospel is the good news that Jesus opened up new dimensions in the relationship between God and mankind, not a written document.
The four biblical gospels are not "The Gospel". Those are only transcribed oral histories. 'Gospel' in the sense of the bible is a literary genre. In the Qu'ran, Jesus is the ultimate judge of all Muslims. I think the question for Muslims is "What is it about Jesus that the Qu'ran makes Jesus the final judge of Muslims instead of Muhammad?" |
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2Acts
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Thank you for your reply Ceo. Perhaps you need to be preaching to Muslim 153 who started this thread with his criticism of Christianity ? Blessings and Peace |
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2Acts
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The original language of the Gospel of Mathew is irrelevant. What�s important is the accurate transmission of meaning. Not the original language. How many Muslims read the Quran in the original language of Arabic. Most do not. Mathew 28.19 is only one of the many verses in the New Testament that refer to the Trinity. How are you going to explain away all the other verses ? Shem Tovs version is only one of many. It is not significant. The new testament is the most validated of all ancient writings. More ancient copies exist than any other ancient writing, for example the Roman history of Julius Caesar, and others. Plus these copies cover a huge and wide geographic area that prevents them from being gathered together and falsified. You do not have your original Quran. Uthman burnt then all and all your Hafiz only recite the version of the Q after the U burning. The oldest Quran found in Sanaa in the 1970s prove the Quran is not a miracle book and it is full of inconsistencies, contradictions and problems. |
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2Acts
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Are the canonical gospel authentic? Yes. The new testament is the most validated of all ancient writings. More ancient copies exist than any other ancient writing, for example the Roman history of Julius Caesar, and others. Plus these copies cover a huge and wide geographic area that prevents them from being gathered together and falsified. You need to educate yourself about the synoptic gospels of Mathew, Mark and Luke. There is evidence they referred to each other with some similarities but also some significant differences. This only makes theses gospels more reliable, not less reliable. You also need to understand the history of the gospels in terms of their oral traditions and the criteria identified by Christian scholars over the centuries to establish the canon. You only know about the Q document theory because of the integrity of Christian scholars. This is nothing new for Christians. Which New Testament authors changed Jesus' birth, death, crucifixion, and resurrection ? Peter ? John ? Paul ? James ? They all stressed Jesus' birth, death, crucifixion, and resurrection and they were all first generation believers. As requested by 786SalamKhan you have provided no evidence. You have no concrete proof, only conspiracy theories. Muslims dont know what you�re original Quran said ! Uthman destroyed all original copies and the oldest pre Uthman Sanaa Quran shows it was a man made writing. |
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The word Injil means �gospel�. The New Testament has the four canonical gospels. Mathew, Mark, luke and John. Canonical Gospels ? YES ! The four canon Gospels of Mathew, Mark, Luke and John were established canon Gospels before Mohamad was even born. Mohamad either knew this � so commands you to believe them. Or else he was confused and ignorant of the �People of the Book� and the Injil. Which one ? |
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