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(Jesus was not a muslim he is the Son of God.)

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If Jesus is the Son of God, it means that Mary's parents is God-in-law.
How do you use your own common sense. Does it make sense that God has in-laws?

(He will not came to establised islam Muhammad already establised his own religeon why would Jesus come down to promote Muhammad's religeon.

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I have explained in this forum that the word "Islam" is Arabic which means "surrender", and "Surrender" is English language.
So Jesus will go down not to establish Islam because that is the religion of all the Prophets. So Jesus came down to realign the teachings of Tawheed, namely surrender and worship only to the one God who created the universe.

(What is the notion of breaking crosses and killing pigs and abolish jizya tax?)

(The Holy Prophet Muhammadsaw prophesied:

حَدَّثَنَا عَلِيُّ بْنُ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ، حَدَّثَنَا سُفْيَانُ، حَدَّثَنَا الزُّهْرِيُّ، قَالَ �£َخْبَرَنِي سَعِيدُ بْنُ الْمُسَيَّبِ، سَمِعَ �£َبَا هُرَيْرَةَ ـ رضى الله عنه ـ عَنْ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ ‏ “‏ لاَ تَقُومُ السَّاعَةُ حَتَّى يَنْزِلَ فِيكُمُ ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ حَكَمًا مُقْسِطًا، فَيَكْسِرَ الصَّلِيبَ، وَيَقْتُلَ الْخِنْزِيرَ، وَيَضَعَ الْجِزْيَةَ، وَيَفِيضَ الْمَالُ حَتَّى لاَ يَقْبَلَهُ �£َحَدٌ ‏”‏‏.‏

Narrated Abu Huraira:Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) said, “The Hour will not be established until the son of Mary descends amongst you as a just ruler, he will break the cross, kill the pigs, and abolish the Jizya tax. Money will be in abundance so that nobody will accept it (Sahih Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 43, Hadith #656)

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Jesus will break the cross because he was not crucified but was lifted up to heaven.
He will kill the pig because it will cause harm to the human body. And in the reign of Jesus later, the earth will be fertile so that there is no need to levy more taxes, people will live in harmony and peace.

(The next sign of the Messiah of the Latter days which will be discussed is the killing of the swine. This is another metaphorical sign of the Messiah, and does not literally mean that the messiah would come to kill pigs. If 100 pigs are killed on one side of the world, thousands would be given birth on the other. 

No true Muslim can believe that the task of a prophet is to come and run around like a hunter to kill pigs, rather the task of a prophet is to guide the people towards Allah. How will the killing of pigs guide anyone to the truth? If one takes this to be literal, they should remember that such a killing would never end.)

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That is in your opinion, no one knows the scenario created by Allah except only informs the sign that the end of the world is near.


(Allah States in the Qur’an  5:60

Say, ‘Shall I inform you of those whose reward with Allah is worse than that?They arethose whom Allah has cursed and on whom His wrath has fallen and of whom He has made apes and swine and who worship the Evil One. These indeed are in a worse plight, and farther astray from the right path(Chapter 5 Verse 61)

Allah here is not referring to real pigs in the Qur’an, rather has likened the evilnes of the people to pigs and apes. The prophecy of killing the swine is also in the same manner. The reason the Holy Prophetsaw said that the Messiah would kill the swine is becase the Messiah would have the duty of dealing with the people who would be like swines in their characteristics. It is also stated in the interprettion of dreams that one who kills a pig, inn reality means that he would argue with a evil minded person. In Ta’tirul Anam it is stted that a pig in a dream refers to a cruel and power enemy and many times is referred to the Jews and the Christians. We should remember that these prophecies were also dreams shown to the Holy Prophet, and therefore also have to be interpreted.)

Answer:
The verse is true.
Allah will be angry with those who changed Allah's words in the Torah and the Gospel, so that many people have been led astray.
Jesus will come to invite people who have gone astray back to the right path which is blessed by Allah.

(Thanks it is not my God.)

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It's up to you, because I believe that the angel on your left has written what you said.

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Originally posted by asep garutea asep garutea wrote:

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If Jesus is the Son of God, it means that Mary's parents is God-in-law.
How do you use your own common sense. Does it make sense that God has in-laws?...

LOLLOLLOL

LOL... This is really funny... it really made me laugh!


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Originally posted by MIAW MIAW wrote:


Originally posted by asep garutea asep garutea wrote:

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Answer:
If Jesus is the Son of God, it means that Mary's parents is God-in-law.
How do you use your own common sense. Does it make sense that God has in-laws?...

LOLLOLLOL

LOL... This is really funny... it really made me laugh!


Yes MIAW, may Allah Ta'ala always give us strength to always hold fast to the teachings that are blessed by Allah Ta'ala. Aameen.

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Originally posted by asep garutea asep garutea wrote:

(Jesus was not a muslim he is the Son of God.)

Answer:
If Jesus is the Son of God, it means that Mary's parents is God-in-law.
How do you use your own common sense. Does it make sense that God has in-laws?

(He will not came to establised islam Muhammad already establised his own religeon why would Jesus come down to promote Muhammad's religeon.

Answer:
I have explained in this forum that the word "Islam" is Arabic which means "surrender", and "Surrender" is English language.
So Jesus will go down not to establish Islam because that is the religion of all the Prophets. So Jesus came down to realign the teachings of Tawheed, namely surrender and worship only to the one God who created the universe.

(What is the notion of breaking crosses and killing pigs and abolish jizya tax?)

(The Holy Prophet Muhammadsaw prophesied:

حَدَّثَنَا عَلِيُّ بْنُ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ، حَدَّثَنَا سُفْيَانُ، حَدَّثَنَا الزُّهْرِيُّ، قَالَ �£َخْبَرَنِي سَعِيدُ بْنُ الْمُسَيَّبِ، سَمِعَ �£َبَا هُرَيْرَةَ ـ رضى الله عنه ـ عَنْ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ ‏ “‏ لاَ تَقُومُ السَّاعَةُ حَتَّى يَنْزِلَ فِيكُمُ ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ حَكَمًا مُقْسِطًا، فَيَكْسِرَ الصَّلِيبَ، وَيَقْتُلَ الْخِنْزِيرَ، وَيَضَعَ الْجِزْيَةَ، وَيَفِيضَ الْمَالُ حَتَّى لاَ يَقْبَلَهُ �£َحَدٌ ‏”‏‏.‏

Narrated Abu Huraira:Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) said, “The Hour will not be established until the son of Mary descends amongst you as a just ruler, he will break the cross, kill the pigs, and abolish the Jizya tax. Money will be in abundance so that nobody will accept it (Sahih Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 43, Hadith #656)

Answer:
Jesus will break the cross because he was not crucified but was lifted up to heaven.
He will kill the pig because it will cause harm to the human body. And in the reign of Jesus later, the earth will be fertile so that there is no need to levy more taxes, people will live in harmony and peace.

(The next sign of the Messiah of the Latter days which will be discussed is the killing of the swine. This is another metaphorical sign of the Messiah, and does not literally mean that the messiah would come to kill pigs. If 100 pigs are killed on one side of the world, thousands would be given birth on the other. 

No true Muslim can believe that the task of a prophet is to come and run around like a hunter to kill pigs, rather the task of a prophet is to guide the people towards Allah. How will the killing of pigs guide anyone to the truth? If one takes this to be literal, they should remember that such a killing would never end.)

Answer:
That is in your opinion, no one knows the scenario created by Allah except only informs the sign that the end of the world is near.


(Allah States in the Qur’an  5:60

Say, ‘Shall I inform you of those whose reward with Allah is worse than that?They arethose whom Allah has cursed and on whom His wrath has fallen and of whom He has made apes and swine and who worship the Evil One. These indeed are in a worse plight, and farther astray from the right path(Chapter 5 Verse 61)

Allah here is not referring to real pigs in the Qur’an, rather has likened the evilnes of the people to pigs and apes. The prophecy of killing the swine is also in the same manner. The reason the Holy Prophetsaw said that the Messiah would kill the swine is becase the Messiah would have the duty of dealing with the people who would be like swines in their characteristics. It is also stated in the interprettion of dreams that one who kills a pig, inn reality means that he would argue with a evil minded person. In Ta’tirul Anam it is stted that a pig in a dream refers to a cruel and power enemy and many times is referred to the Jews and the Christians. We should remember that these prophecies were also dreams shown to the Holy Prophet, and therefore also have to be interpreted.)

Answer:
The verse is true.
Allah will be angry with those who changed Allah's words in the Torah and the Gospel, so that many people have been led astray.
Jesus will come to invite people who have gone astray back to the right path which is blessed by Allah.

(Thanks it is not my God.)

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It's up to you, because I believe that the angel on your left has written what you said.

God's in law.
 

Surah 19 say Mary was rhe sister of Aaron Muhammad was so confused that he could not even lie properly.
28. "O sister of Aaron! Thy father was not a man of evil, nor thy mother a woman
unchaste.

So Jesus in the Quran which was also a copied lie must have been born in the time of Moses.

Islam means SURRENDER only to Muhammad's muslim clan the Hashemites.
Muhammad himself was a member of the house of Hāshim (Hashem), a subdivision of the Quraysh tribe. 

Why the killing of pigs and break crosses and to stop jishiya sin tax of the non muslims then money will be abundance may Allah would open a new currency system.


Allah here is not referring to real pigs in the Qur’an, rather has likened the evilnes of the people to pigs and apes.

Allah will be angry with those who changed Allah's words in the Torah and the Gospel, so that many people have been led astray.
Jesus will come to invite people who have gone astray back to the right path which is blessed by Allah.

As I have shown you already Muhammad changed God's word he made himself a so called prophet.


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(Surah 19 say Mary was rhe sister of Aaron Muhammad was so confused that he could not even lie properly.
28. "O sister of Aaron! Thy father was not a man of evil, nor thy mother a woman
unchaste.)
(So Jesus in the Quran which was also a copied lie must have been born in the time of Moses.)

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What is meant by a sister here is that Mary was related by blood with Aaron who lived in the time of Moses, it does not mean that Aaron lived in the time of Jesus.
Look at the genealogies of the Prophets from the Prophet Adam to the Prophet Muhammad.

(Why the killing of pigs and break crosses and to stop jishiya sin tax of the non muslims then money will be abundance may Allah would open a new currency system.)

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That's just your prejudice.
How about this.

The Torah (Deuteronomy 14: 8)
"Also a wild boar, because it has a split hoof, but it doesn't ruminant, it's proscribed for you. You must not eat the flesh of these animals or be exposed to their carcasses."

Why did Paul violate the word of God by justifying it ?

(Allah here is not referring to real pigs in the Qur’an, rather has likened the evilnes of the people to pigs and apes.)

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Yes Jesus will do that. If you think that it equates people's crimes with pigs and apes, well ... maybe too.

(Allah will be angry with those who changed Allah's words in the Torah and the Gospel, so that many people have been led astray.
Jesus will come to invite people who have gone astray back to the right path which is blessed by Allah.)

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Yes that's right.

(As I have shown you already Muhammad changed God's word he made himself a so called prophet.)

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That's your opinion.

If Muhammad was not a Prophet, why were his followers growing more and more?
Are they like you who only follow your own will what you wish?

Oh yes, what is your answer if God has in-laws ?
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Originally posted by asep garutea asep garutea wrote:

(Surah 19 say Mary was rhe sister of Aaron Muhammad was so confused that he could not even lie properly.
28. "O sister of Aaron! Thy father was not a man of evil, nor thy mother a woman
unchaste.)
(So Jesus in the Quran which was also a copied lie must have been born in the time of Moses.)

Answer:
What is meant by a sister here is that Mary was related by blood with Aaron who lived in the time of Moses, it does not mean that Aaron lived in the time of Jesus.
Look at the genealogies of the Prophets from the Prophet Adam to the Prophet Muhammad.

(Why the killing of pigs and break crosses and to stop jishiya sin tax of the non muslims then money will be abundance may Allah would open a new currency system.)

Answer:
That's just your prejudice.
How about this.

The Torah (Deuteronomy 14: 8)
"Also a wild boar, because it has a split hoof, but it doesn't ruminant, it's proscribed for you. You must not eat the flesh of these animals or be exposed to their carcasses."

Why did Paul violate the word of God by justifying it ?

(Allah here is not referring to real pigs in the Qur’an, rather has likened the evilnes of the people to pigs and apes.)

Answer:
Yes Jesus will do that. If you think that it equates people's crimes with pigs and apes, well ... maybe too.

(Allah will be angry with those who changed Allah's words in the Torah and the Gospel, so that many people have been led astray.
Jesus will come to invite people who have gone astray back to the right path which is blessed by Allah.)

Answer:
Yes that's right.

(As I have shown you already Muhammad changed God's word he made himself a so called prophet.)

Answer:
That's your opinion.

If Muhammad was not a Prophet, why were his followers growing more and more?
Are they like you who only follow your own will what you wish?

Oh yes, what is your answer if God has in-laws ?

Don't come talk me about genealogies cover up you know as good as know it it one of Muhammad's serious blunders to mistake Mary as the sister Aaron Muhammad was not mistaken when said this Allah knows best. 
Aaron was from the tribe of Levi.
Mary was from the tribe Juda.

Just only one of numerous erros in the Quran that Muhammad everything inthe Quran is an huge error like this.
The Hadiths just corfirm his blunders and errros.

Qur’an 18:83-86—And they ask you about Dhul-Qarnain. Say: “I shall recite to you something of his story.” Verily, We established him in the earth, and We gave him the means of everything. So he followed a way. Until, when he reached the setting place of the sun, he found it setting in a spring of black muddy (or hot) water. And he found near it a people.

Sunan Abu Dawud 3991—Abu Dharr said: I was sitting behind the Apostle of Allah who was riding a donkey while the sun was setting. He asked: Do you know where this sets? I replied: Allah and his Apostle know best. He said: It sets in a spring of warm water.

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It's up to you if your opinion like that, and my opinion that the Quran is really the Words of Allah.
If you only questioning the Quran like that, it will not change my aqeedah because it's the aqeedah of all the Prophets (including Jesus) is the same that is worshiping only one God who does not have a son.
Can you imagine if God has a son ?
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Quran is clear.

Christians are confused, they don't know the name of Mary's father.

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