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Originally posted by TG12345 TG12345 wrote:

I have no idea why he referred to cars as "animals", by "every animal imaginable", he must have meant "every form of transportation imaginable". Which does nothing to clear up the mistake.
There is no mistake and only requires you to open up your mind beyond literal bounds. Please don't ask for the 'cat' or 'dog' as an evidence for heavy rain.
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Originally posted by TG12345 TG12345 wrote:

I have no idea why he referred to cars as "animals", by "every animal imaginable", he must have meant "every form of transportation imaginable". Which does nothing to clear up the mistake.

Originally posted by AhmadJoyia AhmadJoyia wrote:

There is no mistake and only requires you to open up your mind beyond literal bounds. Please don't ask for the 'cat' or 'dog' as an evidence for heavy rain.

What do you think "every animal imaginable " means?
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Originally posted by TG12345 TG12345 wrote:

Originally posted by TG12345 TG12345 wrote:

I have no idea why he referred to cars as "animals", by "every animal imaginable", he must have meant "every form of transportation imaginable". Which does nothing to clear up the mistake.

Originally posted by AhmadJoyia AhmadJoyia wrote:

There is no mistake and only requires you to open up your mind beyond literal bounds. Please don't ask for the 'cat' or 'dog' as an evidence for heavy rain.

What do you think "every animal imaginable " means?
All or any type of means of travel/communication, imaginable.
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Originally posted by TG12345 TG12345 wrote:

I have no idea why he referred to cars as "animals", by "every animal imaginable", he must have meant "every form of transportation imaginable". Which does nothing to clear up the mistake.

Originally posted by AhmadJoyia AhmadJoyia wrote:

There is no mistake and only requires you to open up your mind beyond literal bounds. Please don't ask for the 'cat' or 'dog' as an evidence for heavy rain.

Originally posted by TG12345 TG12345 wrote:


What do you think "every animal imaginable " means?

Originally posted by AhmadJoyia AhmadJoyia wrote:

All or any type of means of travel/communication, imaginable.

So according to the tafsir, God in the Quran said to Abraham that people will come to him via "any type of means of travel/communication, imaginable".
Do you agree with this interpretation?
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Go and take another look of the tafsir that I referred you on page 1 of this topic. I just duplicate it here, just in case...When the Pilgrimage was proclaimed, people came to it from every quarter, near and far, on foot and mounted. The "lean camel" coming after a fatiguing journey through distant mountain roads typifies the difficulties of travel, which Pilgrims disregard on account of the temporal and spiritual benefits referred to in the next verse.
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Originally posted by AhmadJoyia AhmadJoyia wrote:

Go and take another look of the tafsir that I referred you on page 1 of this topic. I just duplicate it here, just in case...When the Pilgrimage was proclaimed, people came to it from every quarter, near and far, on foot and mounted. The "lean camel" coming after a fatiguing journey through distant mountain roads typifies the difficulties of travel, which Pilgrims disregard on account of the temporal and spiritual benefits referred to in the next verse.

Funnily enough, this interpretation also gives a timeline, stating �when the pilgrimage was proclaimed��, which would disqualify it from being a prophecy of the future.

When it was proclaimed, people allegedly came to it �from every quarter, near and far�� I doubt they truly came from �every quarter, near and far�. The world is bigger than Arabia.
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Pilgrimage for the Muslim as per the teachings of Prophet Mohammad, though it was already in vogue before him, but he corrected some of its pagan rituals.
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Originally posted by AhmadJoyia AhmadJoyia wrote:

Pilgrimage for the Muslim as per the teachings of Prophet Mohammad, though it was already in vogue before him, but he corrected some of its pagan rituals.

This doesn't explain how people were coming "from every quarter, near and far", "when the pilgrimage was proclaimed".

The pilgrimage was proclaimed by Abraham. People did not come to him "from every quarter, near and far". They came maybe from all over Arabia. There are many more locations than just from all over Arabia.


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