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    Posted: 24 May 2016 at 12:13am
Words of wisdom from Ringer and a reminder that one needs to work at finding answers.
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Very good advice from Ringer.  This is what I did also.  Read from many sources, taking into consideration the possible bias from each source. 
It is necessary to do lots of checking and cross referencing in order to create a clearer picture.  Best always to use your own mind and reach your own conclusions and not rely wholly on what another might say.
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Originally posted by Balliol Balliol wrote:

I am British which is not important but I need to set out what I am. Recently I took the decision to attempt to understand the world of Islam and why it appears to be in ferment. I did so because I believe that nothing in this world happens without a reason. I wanted to know why this ferment is occurring.
   
The first book I found described the development and some of the history of Islam and within it I read that when Muhammad died his position, if that's the correct term to use, Was followed by what were described by four "rightly guided"caliphs whose rule covered the period 632 to 661. I then read that three of these were assassinated which appeared to me to be rather savage bringing Islam into disrepute.

I apologise if anything I have written above offends anyone and if it does please explain to me why.


To get from a religiously focused society to where we are now took us Brits many centuries, many heritics being burnt alive, the occaisional King being beheaded, a full scale civil war, many many other wars, civil strike and riots to be extremely brief.

Given that we seem to expect that any culture not fully up to speed on our 21st century way of thinking is alien might it be a little arrogant of us to be asking such a question?

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Almost nothing is without bias, especially in something as important as a religion, perhaps even a controversial religion.

A possibly more effective tack is to read widely and work to understand the bias of each author so that you can factor that into your understanding of what to accept, what to reject, and what to consider tentative in the materials you read.

A Muslim scholar is going to write from the point of view, and the bias, of the faithful.

Someone antagonistic to Islam is going to offer a different point of view and different biases.

Be sure to check the quotes and references yourself when they disagree.

I have found both types of sources invaluable in allowing me to understand the arguments.

You also may find that you are able to use your own mind and good logic to work through towards an accurate understanding.
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I have started to read "Muslim" history but the great difficulty is to ensure that what I read is neutral in that many books attempt to show the Muslim religion in one way while others take an opposing view so I would welcome suggested reading.
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To know Islam read Quran Allah in ch 5 v 32 of Quran says if you kill a human being unless for murder or for mischief in the land means as if you have killed whole humanity if u save an innocent human being means as if you have saved whole humanity
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Balliol, welcome. Perhaps it is a result of the political destabilization of Muslim nation states in the middle east, that has focused indirect attention on the religion of its citizens.   
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I am British which is not important but I need to set out what I am. Recently I took the decision to attempt to understand the world of Islam and why it appears to be in ferment. I did so because I believe that nothing in this world happens without a reason. I wanted to know why this ferment is occurring.
   
The first book I found described the development and some of the history of Islam and within it I read that when Muhammad died his position, if that's the correct term to use, Was followed by what were described by four "rightly guided"caliphs whose rule covered the period 632 to 661. I then read that three of these were assassinated which appeared to me to be rather savage bringing Islam into disrepute.

I apologise if anything I have written above offends anyone and if it does please explain to me why.
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