Blasphemy Rights Day.

abuayisha wrote: Caringheart wrote: Greetings abuayisha,Can we agree that when something becomes a threat it must not be allowed?  That laws are made to protect people from threat? The ban has little or nothing to do with public safety, but any conspicuous religious symbol is seen as a threat to secularism in France.

It is seen as an inposition of repression upon the women who are pressurised into wearing it by their families.

Not revealing your face is a very anti-social thing to do. If you do this due to not wanting to yourself then it must be asked why the hell not? What are you hiding???

If it is due to family pressure then that is not OK in a modern society. Women need to be as empowered as men in the west not restricted by not being able to make any sort of relationship due to not being able to show their face.

The answer is that France has motivations other than public safety. If you're asking me should people be allowed to do their banking in ski masks, than my answer is no.

abuayisha wrote: The answer is that France has motivations other than public safety. If you're asking me should people be allowed to do their banking in ski masks, than my answer is no.

hehehe - That made me smile.

but seriously, how can you be the judge of what France's motivations are?
The government is dealing with a serious problem.  They are responsible for protecting the people, and for maintaining the stability of the nation.

Just as you wouldn't trust a person walking into a bank wearing a ski mask,
why would you feel any safer knowing that there were people determined to terrorize or bomb, allowed to walk around on the streets with their face covered?  ... and I don't mean just muslims... anyone could don the burqa as a cover, if they wanted to do ill, and especially if they wanted that ill to be blamed on muslims.

asalaam and blessings,
Caringheart

abuayisha wrote: I think what makes for good discussion is expressing views frankly and openly, and Islamicity is extremely liberal in that respect, as you well know. But let's keep the discussion respectful. As I mentioned before, theology by its very nature calls for faith and belief, and if you don't believe Moses literally parted the Red Sea, this is your choice. What point is there in becoming belligerent in your rejection, moreover to even articulate that you have somehow been harmed by such beliefs!? I personally feel it's entirely disingenuous to suggest political correctness or frank and open discussion is what's at play here, but just trolling an Islamic discussion board. I would hope that the moderators take note of such behavior as it is clearing in violation of the rules for discussion.

Well, your words seem to point to criticismphobia, because all I do is criticize a literal understanding of certain parts of holy books. I'm puzzled by this overreaction. I do respect people and because of that I might challenge some of what they say or write. I focus on the issue, not the person. When people say snakes can really talk or the moon was really split or Moses really parted the sea I voice my disagreement (the latter myth might have been inspired by the oral traditions created after the tsunami caused by the Minoan eruption) and this has nothing to do with trolling. Literalim can cause a lot of problems. It'd be irresponsible not to criticize it.