NASA Proves Islam is a trur religion

ISLAM HASHTAG wrote: I have one little advice request, Look at the verse of Quran "(2:23)which asks the people who don't believe in Allah to produce a single chapter like Quran and call their witnesses.This challenge was given to the people 1400 yrs back and no one has succeeded yet.

I have addressed this question as a separate topic: "a Surah the like thereof".

ISLAM HASHTAG wrote: I am not offended at all.And thanks for your consideration of the text part of the video.I understand that you are a humanist.And you don't believe in miracle but Indeed the creation of life is itself a miracle.No science has been able to create a life out of non living thing and no scientists know why all living things die.When a book has come to us telling everything that has happened in past and the things that will happen in future and the sciences we are discovering know is already coded in the book.How can we deny? I have one little advice request, Look at the verse of Quran "(2:23)which asks the people who don't believe in Allah to produce a single chapter like Quran and call their witnesses.This challenge was given to the people 1400 yrs back and no one has succeeded yet.

http://www.ted.com/talks/martin_hanczyc_the_line_between_life_and_not_life?language=en

Here is an example of how far science has gone down that road.

I am not offended at all.And thanks for your consideration of the text part of the video.I understand that you are a humanist.And you don't believe in miracle but Indeed the creation of life is itself a miracle.No science has been able to create a life out of non living thing and no scientists know why all living things die.When a book has come to us telling everything that has happened in past and the things that will happen in future and the sciences we are discovering know is already coded in the book.How can we deny?

I have one little advice request,
Look at the verse of Quran "(2:23)which asks the people who don't believe in Allah to produce a single chapter like Quran and call their witnesses.This challenge was given to the people 1400 yrs back and no one has succeeded yet.

Hi Islam Hashtag,

Sorry if my earlier message sounded a bit grumpy.  I probably shouldn't post messages first thing in the morning before I've had my tea.

Yes, I think Mecca is just a city that grew up around the Kaaba, which is just an arbitrary spot on the earth.  There is nothing magical about it.  I don't believe in magic.  Yes, I know that Mecca is now a large city, but it wasn't always that way.  Certainly if Allah wanted to incorporate the Golden Ratio into the location of the Kaaba He could have been more accurate.

I am an atheist, but I usually avoid that term because it simply means I don't believe in gods -- it doesn't tell you what I do believe.  I prefer the term "humanist", which emphasizes that my focus is on humanity.

One of the reasons your post frustrated me is that I am constantly fighting a battle here to get people to understand that you can't just believe everything you read (or hear) on the Internet.  There is all sorts of nonsense out there, and it just gets repeated over and over.  People read something that supports their preconceived notions and never bother to check the most basic facts.

To be honest, I didn't even notice the text part of the article at first.  I just assumed it was a summary of the video, but apparently it makes an entirely different argument.

Do I approve of the text argument?  No, certainly not.  It just plays the same game that religion has been playing for thousands of years: pick something that we don't understand, and then claim it as proof of God.  They used to do that with lightning, and with diseases, and with planetary motions, and with species adaptations.  Now we understand those things, so they have moved on to the Second Law of Thermodynamics and the fine-tuning argument.  There will always be things we don't understand.  That's what makes science so exciting.

No, we don't know how the universe came to be, or what may have preceded it, or why it has the specific properties that it does.  But millions of us would love to know, and that's what science is.  As I've said many times on this forum, the "Goddidit" answer, aside from having no evidence to support it, is not an explanation for anything.  It simply provides a name for our ignorance, and an excuse not to look any further.  Saying that God created the universe still doesn't tell us how it was created.